Standard Life suspends trading in UK property fund

globalds

I can't see how any of this is anything other than a reality check .

Or do we call it a stress test now ?

If for example commercial property isn't being propped up by investors who are unfortunately part of a bubble as one investment fund buys another funds portfolio for some unrealistic price ..Then this will be a blip ..But if it is a bubble ..best we let it pop now than allow it to keep getting bigger ..Or does anyone here want to argue that a bubble is worth keeping for some later date ?

Is there ever a good time for the market to re align with reality ?

Kohoutek

globalds wrote: »

Is there ever a good time for the market to re align with reality ?

It is realigning with an expectation of lower investment into the UK / London.

DiggerUK

Kohoutek wrote: »

It is realigning with an expectation of lower investment into the UK / London.

Anybody heard that M & G have also joined the freeze..._

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-05/m-g-investments-suspends-trading-in-property-portfolio-fund

globalds

Kohoutek wrote: »

It is realigning with an expectation of lower investment into the UK / London.

Are you trying to argue the majority vote isn't reality ?


Is that reality any different to a 48 - 52 the other way ?...

CLAPTON

Kohoutek wrote: »

Both suggest that the market expectation is lower investment into the UK, so I would say bad news.

But I'm sure people who voted to Leave can somehow say it's good news.

the expectation is a lower price of existing commercial property which is NOT the same thing.

Kohoutek

globalds wrote: »

Are you trying to argue the majority vote isn't reality ?


Is that reality any different to a 48 - 52 the other way ?...

No I'm saying precisely the opposite. It is reality. You voted to make the UK less attractive for investment and now it is.

Kohoutek

CLAPTON wrote: »

the expectation is a lower price of existing commercial property which is NOT the same thing.

Do you accept that commercial property prices are driven by the economy, or is it something else like the weather?

CLAPTON

Kohoutek wrote: »

Do you accept that commercial property prices are driven by the economy, or is it something else like the weather?

I see no reson why the price of commercial property isn't driven by supply and demand and so would be neither the economy (whatever that means) or the weather.

so e.g. if the demand for London property dropped because more people worked at home then I would expect the price would drop.
what would you expect?

globalds

Kohoutek wrote: »

No I'm saying precisely the opposite. It is reality. You voted to make the UK less attractive for investment and now it is.

I think you are mistaken .
I voted to Leave The E.U.

The market was caught out by the amount of people that agreed with me ..Other wise like most things that happen .. The market would price it in.

Really if you are upset with anyone ..It should be those paid to know the result of the referendum who let you down with their predictions

orcocan

hilarious to see all the brexiters justifying clear signs of distress in the economy as some kind of benign side effect or something that 'would have happened anyway'. The pound heads towards all time lows but don't worry it's all good, we've had enough of experts !!!!!!!

investors are (trying to) flee commercial property as they expect the economy to be weaker = less investment, companies moving their headquarters overseas, cutting jobs, etc. None of this was on the plate before the referendum, let's stop pretending otherwise.

what are we even talking about