What's the plan Stan?

Generali

The Leave vote won so what's the plan now?

chucknorris

I'm not sure who's plan you are talking about, but if it was up to me I would go for this:

- Stay in the single market (great, this is key)
- Carry on paying fees to Europe (not so great, as we have less influence)
- Have more say in our own affairs (doesn't bother me so much, but it will probably pacify a few angry people)
- Agree to free movement of labour (probably a necessary trade off to stay in the single market)

So not that much change, but we would have went through a load of hassle just to be a bit worse off than we were.

CLAPTON

Sadly our own government forbade the civil service from drawing up a variety of scenarios before the referendum.
So we can only start from where we are.
We need a set of alternatives identified and presented to the people before deciding a way forward.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

The Leave vote won so what's the plan now?

remember YOU voted leave.

Generali

chucknorris wrote: »

I'm not sure who's plan you are talking about

Bozza I suppose. The Leave lot seem to have gone very quiet.

chucknorris wrote: »

- Stay in the single market (great, this is key)
- Carry on paying fees to Europe (not so great, as we have less influence)
- Have more say in our own affairs (doesn't bother me so much, but it will probably pacify a few angry people)
- Agree to free movement of labour (probably a necessary trade off to stay in the single market)

So not that much change, but we would have went through a load of hassle just to be a bit worse off than we were.

I agree. You've lost 12% of your buying power so far. When the EU !!!!s you over then you'll lose more.

Idiots.

Herzlos

I don't think even BoJo expected to win; that this was all Tory party internal politics that's gone horribly wrong, and now we're trying to find a way to either (a) invalidate the whole thing or (b) actually get on with fixing things.

I think we're going to essentially give away our seat at the table, in exchange for getting pretty much the same deal we're getting now. No way will the EU agree to the migration controls we seem to want, without penalising us for the other freedoms.

Generali

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't think even BoJo expected to win; that this was all Tory party internal politics that's gone horribly wrong, and now we're trying to find a way to either (a) invalidate the whole thing or (b) actually get on with fixing things.

I think we're going to essentially give away our seat at the table, in exchange for getting pretty much the same deal we're getting now. No way will the EU agree to the migration controls we seem to want, without penalising us for the other freedoms.

I agree. If you want access to the Single Market you'll have freedom of movement. Deny one and you prevent the other.

@Leavers: What's the plan? What comes next? The Leave 'leaders' have gone to ground just when they're needed. You voted to kick over the statues but there is no vision for what happens next.

mayonnaise

Generali wrote: »

The Leave vote won so what's the plan now?

Can't be bovered mate, I got me country back.

enjoyyourshoes

We need to start looking and thinking away from Europe as we have voted to leave.

Our destiny must be with the rest of the World, India, Canada, Oz, China and emerging markets.

We need to balance what we export to EU against what we import and use this as our bargaining tool with EU/article 50/new agreement.

Our financial services need again to focus on the rest of the World & see what opportunities this can bring us.

Remain was safe, I like safe, but leave is a risk and we need to embrace this now and see what we can do as a trading nation. Be less introverted (immigration), less trying to best guess what we need to do with EU and focus on where our opportunities lie. This is where we need the brightest and best to search out the opportunity.

lovinituk

Why are you throwing your toys out of your pram? You don't even live here.

the_flying_pig

chucknorris wrote: »

I'm not sure who's plan you are talking about, but if it was up to me I would go for this:

- Stay in the single market (great, this is key)
- Carry on paying fees to Europe (not so great, as we have less influence)
- Have more say in our own affairs (doesn't bother me so much, but it will probably pacify a few angry people)
- Agree to free movement of labour (probably a necessary trade off to stay in the single market)

So not that much change, but we would have went through a load of hassle just to be a bit worse off than we were.

yep, that's the absolute, almost certainly over-optimistic, best case. keep the benefits of free trade & get released from a few trivial rules about banana straightness etc but lose our say in the setting of rules; not save a single penny in contributions; not reduce the number of immigrants coming in by one single, er, what's the proper unit of measurement - any katie hopkins fans on here? 'swarm'? 'horde'?. in other words confirm that the remain campaign was mostly truthful & leave almost entirely fundamentally dishonest at its very core. oh, and get a new PM & most of a new cabinet. which is the really important thing, no?


perhaps more realistic - as above but with a little kicker that one way or another makes it more expensive for some or all uk business [e.g. maybe just the City, somehow?] to trade, to the tune of several squillion quid a year?