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Pay by Oyster card to/from Gatwick beware overcharge!

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I recently became aware that Oyster card is valid for payment between Gatwick and London. However, beware that travelling by tube to/from a London rail terminus may hugely inflate the fare!

My experience:
Travelling between Gatwick and Camden.
The fare from Gatwick to St.Pancras or from Gatwick to London Bridge was advertised as £8.
While St Pancras is an easy walk away from my destination, apocalyptic weather caused a lot of cancellations and delays so I opted to go to London Bridge and take the tube from there.

Tapping out from BR at London Bridge, £8 was deducted from my card as expected. However, having done the 7 stops on the Northern line, a further £8.20 was deducted at Camden Town! A journey which should cost £2.40

I was informed at Camden this is because this is price of the Journey from LGW to Camden. I pointed out that it would be cheaper to buy a 2nd Oyster card to use for the tube journey but the guy didn't understand this, apparently complicated, idea, "No, it's not possible to do that", he said :tongue:

Anyway, the good news is: I contacted tfl/Oyster and was refunded the overcharge but BEWARE, even though you tap out of BR and then into LU, the Oyster system is currently set up to view this as a continuous journey and may charge a massively inflated fare by conflating the journey stages.

Tfl / Oyster refunds
Phone: 0343 222 1234* (option 2 then option 5 for contactless queries; option 2 then option 6 for Oyster card queries)
Textphone: 0800 112 3456
08:00-20:00 seven days a week

Comments

  • yorkie2
    yorkie2 Posts: 1,595 Forumite
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    Was this a weekday or weekend? What times did you travel? Any chance of showing us a copy of your journey history?

    And if you think that's bad.... people are charged up to £11.20 extra (or more, if including LU), if platforms 13/14 at London Victoria are involved.

    I am all for extending Oyster/Contactless, but the way it's been done to Gatwick is a disgrace.
  • ubrain
    ubrain Posts: 11 Forumite
    As I say, challenged by phone, they agreed to a refund of £5.60.
    There was some mention of having been charged a 'peak fare' although the service was in such a state of disarray that, although I tapped in at 1850 I wasn't on a train till after 1915, well outside peak time.
    Here you are:
    Friday, 24 June 2016Recent journeys £16.20 daily total
    18:50 - 20:10 Gatwick Airport to Camden Town £16.20 £33.15
    20:10 Touch out, Camden Town £8.20 £33.15
    19:51 Touch in, London Bridge [London Underground] £0.00 £41.35
    19:47 Touch out, London Bridge [National Rail] +£6.00 £41.35
    18:50 Touch in, Gatwick Airport £14.00 £35.35
  • yorkie2
    yorkie2 Posts: 1,595 Forumite
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    Ah, I see the problem.

    Gatwick to London Bridge is off peak at all times except 0630-0930

    But Gatwick to Camden Town has an additional evening peak, 1600 to 1900, based on the time of the original touch-in.

    Yes, it's bonkers!

    It is often cheaper to "split" a journey into multiple shorter journeys on the British railway passenger network, and that tradition is being continued even in today's age of smart cards.

    I believe contactless would split it into 2 journeys and therefore charge less. MikeWh will know for sure. You could ask him on his website, Oyster and National Rail , or the Fare Advice & Policy section on RailUK Forums
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