Health Care

tomtontom

TeamPlum wrote: »

Whoooooosh.

I think suki was joking, hence the smiley face

TeamPlum

As was I. :beer:

peachyprice

There is no such thing as private A&E, to the extent that if you need emergency treatment whilst in a private hospital you get transferred to the nearest NHS A&E.

I've been at a private hospital on two separate occasions where they were transferring a patient, once someone had a heart attack on the operating table, another time someone didn't wake up after a knee op. In both cases they had to wait for an NHS ambulance to take them to A&E.

Toothsmith

'Private hospitals' are little more than nice hotels that have a few Drs on the staff!

It is a bit shocking the sort of operations they can provide there without decent critical care facilities should something go wrong. Often, there isn't even a Dr on the site overnight.

I have Pvt insurance that kicks in if there is more than a 6 week wait on the NHS for the thing I need.

I have used it a couple of times - and both times I used the Pvt ward at the local NHS hospital. Not as comfy, not as good food, - but Crash teams and life support a quick trolley dash away! That's what I look for in a hospital!!

Mojisola

peachyprice wrote: »

There is no such thing as private A&E, to the extent that if you need emergency treatment whilst in a private hospital you get transferred to the nearest NHS A&E.

I've been at a private hospital on two separate occasions where they were transferring a patient, once someone had a heart attack on the operating table, another time someone didn't wake up after a knee op. In both cases they had to wait for an NHS ambulance to take them to A&E.

A relative of mine was shocked when discussing her expensive surgery she asked what would happen if something did go wrong during the operation - she was told they would stabilise her as well as they could and phone 999 so she could get taken to the nearest NHS hospital.

teddysmum

Mojisola wrote: »

A relative of mine was shocked when discussing her expensive surgery she asked what would happen if something did go wrong during the operation - she was told they would stabilise her as well as they could and phone 999 so she could get taken to the nearest NHS hospital.

So you could end up worse off, as if the emergency occurred in the NHS hospital, you would already be on site and treated immediately.

justme111

Toothsmith wrote: »

'Private hospitals' are little more than nice hotels that have a few Drs on the staff!

It is a bit shocking the sort of operations they can provide there without decent critical care facilities should something go wrong. Often, there isn't even a Dr on the site overnight.

I have Pvt insurance that kicks in if there is more than a 6 week wait on the NHS for the thing I need.

I have used it a couple of times - and both times I used the Pvt ward at the local NHS hospital. Not as comfy, not as good food, - but Crash teams and life support a quick trolley dash away! That's what I look for in a hospital!!

How would you know what can be done about your conditions or symptoms if you see NHS gp with 7 minutes per patient or specialist under the NHS ? You know constrains of NHS in dentistry , why do you think medicine is different ?
To others - I find it difficult to believe Michael Jackson would been seen waiting at a&e. There must be some other way.. apart from not living in Britain and not visiting it due to medical help being reduced to the lowest common denominator (apart from some narrowly specialised star consultant teams).
Why do you seem to celebrate that everybody will have to be in the same queue and be treated the same by overworked GPs missing letal conditions due to have limits on referrals they do , by a&e doctors that work their 80th hour in a week , by nurses that do not even think about offering topical anesthesia for intravenous injections - and everybody sees iy as normal , it is NHS , they do not have time to fuff around with topical. Why not to be happy someone wants to have an option of avoiding it and liberating resources for those who could not afford it ? Why sarcastically gloating they do not have that option?

tomtontom

justme111 wrote: »

How would you know what can be done about your conditions or symptoms if you see NHS gp with 7 minutes per patient or specialist under the NHS ? You know constrains of NHS in dentistry , why do you think medicine is different ?
To others - I find it difficult to believe Michael Jackson would been seen waiting at a&e. There must be some other way.. apart from not living in Britain and not visiting it due to medical help being reduced to the lowest common denominator (apart from some narrowly specialised star consultant teams).
Why do you seem to celebrate that everybody will have to be in the same queue and be treated the same by overworked GPs missing letal conditions due to have limits on referrals they do , by a&e doctors that work their 80th hour in a week , by nurses that do not even think about offering topical anesthesia for intravenous injections - and everybody sees iy as normal , it is NHS , they do not have time to fuff around with topical. Why not to be happy someone wants to have an option of avoiding it and liberating resources for those who could not afford it ? Why sarcastically gloating they do not have that option?

I doubt you'd see Michael Jackson waiting in A&E because he's dead.

(And the rest of your post makes no sense either.)

Nicki

Perhaps it's a regional thing but in London there is an option to have private A and E care and the private hospitals mostly have high dependency beds and doctors are definitely on site 24 hours a day.

Eg here:
http://theprincessgracehospital.com/hospital-services/services/urgent-care/
http://www.hcahealthcare.co.uk/mobile/our-hospitals/find-a-hospital-or-outpatient-centre/the-princess-grace-hospital/

tomtontom

Nicki wrote: »

Perhaps it's a regional thing but in London there is an option to have private A and E care and the private hospitals mostly have high dependency beds and doctors are definitely on site 24 hours a day.

Eg here:
http://theprincessgracehospital.com/hospital-services/services/urgent-care/
http://www.hcahealthcare.co.uk/mobile/our-hospitals/find-a-hospital-or-outpatient-centre/the-princess-grace-hospital/

The Princess Grace is an urgent care centre, which sits somewhere in between GPs and A&E. They have them in the NHS also. They do not deal with life threatening situations, also they close at 10pm.