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cjj_2

Westvleteren wrote: »

Surely it's daring enough to be brave enough to post a pic I'm guessing not many will participate so I could win this hands down All it needs is a clever perspective

Where's TM she's always game for a laugh Still struggling with internet

Afternoon all, hope everyone is well.

Do we have to be wearing the shorts in the photo lol ? xx

cjj_2

cjj wrote: »

Afternoon all, hope everyone is well.

Do we have to be wearing the shorts in the photo lol ? xx

Edit - I see we do haha.

bubbs

Right going to do a few jobs before dh home:eek:
Back in a bit

izzy65

hampydoodums wrote: »

Morning luvlies, another hot one here. Not caught up yet, our Stanley Boy has had an accident . He's at the animal hospital now awaiting surgery this morning, he has a very unusual break in his left hind knee cap as they are usually transverse, his is down the patella. Our normal vet x-rayed him yesterday and have referred him to an orthopaedic surgeon as they don't have drills small enough to pin it.

Bless him, he came in crying 10 days ago and was hobbling about. Took him straight to vets and they diagnosed a cat bite and put him on antibiotics and pain killers. Took him back a week later as still hobbling about but didn't appear to be in distress as he's been climbing fences and jumping on and off bar stools :eek:.

We have cover up to 2k per illness which vet is aware of and thinks it will come in less than that. If not we'll just have to swallow. Can't get him out of my mind, he's my 4th baby

Will let you know how he gets on

Good afternoon, wishing Stanley boy a speedy recovery, worse than kids having furry babies:A

Sarahdol75

Here's mine:-

cjj_2

Here's mine xx

LEJC

Short's no not from me sorry I can't compete with the lovely ladies...but guys where are yours...on second thoughts,maybe not!

mhoc

cjj wrote: »

Afternoon all, hope everyone is well.

Do we have to be wearing the shorts in the photo lol ? xx

or at least something to cover the lower regions as it is before the watershed - some of us need to be covered up to ankle level :rotfl:

wendyak

Savvybuyer wrote: »

Sorry folks, I'm in a "fit of obsession":D again and that's why I've gone on and on. You've missed me I know:rotfl::rotfl:.

Afternoon, of course we missed you ...just reading back so sorry if you have already done this to death and at the prospect of starting your over active brain off again, did you know the Justin Bieber song "love yourself" is not how he wrote it ......??
I heard a version he sang at a concert and you would have had spiky hair lol xxxx

Savvybuyer

bubbs wrote: »

Thats why i posted it originally

Thank you, this part of your post, that I've just seeing, is making me laugh:rotfl::rotfl:.

I did wake up this morning with that programme from last night on my mind. With the segment from it, the image of the man and the sentence with the bleeped-in swearing (rather than bleeped out:rotfl:) playing repeatedly in my mind over and over and over again. It is intrusive thoughts - how do I get rid of them? It probably lasted for at least fifteen minutes, on and off and repeatedly reminders of it, not with the bleep sound in it, interestingly (or not:rotfl:), but instead my own imagination of the word being said in the way it which it may have been said. And it did keep trying to upset me. In fact, I then felt my heart racing very mildly and trying to race more but never managing to do so. And then again a few seconds later and then repeatedly half a minute later etc.

It was a weird feeling (I'm back to perfectly fine at the moment) and somehow worse as I wished my heart would actually race extremely rapidly, get it over with and finish (returning to normal) rather than do so in a mild way and repeatedly feel like trying to do so more - I felt it was actually worse than if it had just done so properly and then ceased. So, I felt worse than a proper PTSD attack. And I felt a bit upset as well whilst my heart was slightly racing and trying but failing to do so more. I felt a bit depressive, like in the clinical depression illness sense. So, yes, it has caused me to be upset and, therefore, caused me offence.

It's not that it was necessarily wrong to put on the programme - I don't feel that way - but just the effects that it has produced to me into today and I was provided with no warning that it would be in the version that I have started to find more bothering to me. I expected it wouldn't be bleeped and therefore didn't switch off. He didn't state that it would be bleeped but gave a forewarning about language and therefore I thought it wouldn't be bleeped as that doesn't bother me. The warning was inadequate, failing to make clear the nature of the material, namely that it would be bleeped. I wish I hadn't seen and heard what I actually saw and heard now. Sorry, I'll start thinking about it again now after I've posted this:rotfl::rotfl:. Oh, dear - but it is also, afterwards, when I'm not at the moment experiencing the bad feelings right now, in a strange way so funny that I have experienced it like that. I used to be fine with this decades ago and, when it was ineffective, it was funnier because you knew what it was - it carried some impact of the word still, with parts of it around the bleep, but I think they now cover it up entirely before 9pm, remove the impact by doing so and make it worse as it no longer pushes me over into laughter. This one was the old partial bleep though - but it just didn't make me laugh (and neither should it have done given the context).

It wasn't the actual word decades ago, nor is it now, but decades ago the actual word on-air would, I think, have caused a physical reaction in me - making me heart really sink I feel, especially as my mother was present. My brother was laughing at the bleeps especially as it was therefore 'naughty' and subversive as it was "getting around the rules". We both thought it was funny. But now it's just an annoying and perpetuated reminder of something that is otherwise long gone (the word itself having been used so much now as to be virtually inoffensive for me in general society). Except it's not because they keep reminding of it and, with me having been repeatedly and regularly cause constant offence by similar material in stranger environments for several more recent years, resulting in the end with PTSD, it now sets off a PTSD reaction. I'm nearly wringing my hands now, sorry, I must stop that:rotfl:.

And I say "virtually inoffensive" and, earlier, that the bizarre thing was how we keep it away from children (I now think that is the very cause of why I have my own problems now) - however one of the few occasions in actual reality (i.e. not on broadcasting) where it does make me uncomfortable is if someone swears when children are around. I've had that, on rare periods, and other people are just not nearly careful enough. I think the problem again is people that don't have autism (which I'll call "neurotypicals" even though that's not quite an accurate term) - neurotypicals just don't even realise that they're saying it. I read about one person (admittedly about one person) who said that he didn't realise when he was swearing. I am amazed, from my POV as someone who has Asperger's, that anyone ever could not know or realise about something that they were doing. Since I would always know and never not know. I could not possibly be unaware. I am always aware of things that people generally, it now seems to me, are not. I think this is because swearing is "natural" and suppressing yourself, which we are forced by society, is not.

The words are formed in different parts of the brain, in neurotypicals at least (I have no idea about people with autism but I suspect it might be different and that this is part of the answer for the reason for the overly "formal" prosody found in the condition). For most people it's natural and comes out - and they make me seriously uncomfortable on every occasion without exception whenever they are in a "more formal" environment (except that they are not since they are saying it?:think:) - it's not that I even have a view that it is, or should be, a more formal environment but somehow, I don't know why, it just affects. And the so-called "milder" words (which they use even more thinking they will not make me uncomfortable - or most likely not thinking about it at all*) affect me just as much. *Therefore thoughtless behaviour on their part?:think:

I've no idea why it doesn't affect me when it's on the football pitch and ten year olds are around (usually all male and no over people over 50 present) but does elsewhere. And the milder words, that are in any way swearing at all - always the ones that were made for me as swearing when I was a child and none of the newer, "offensive" terms that I was unaware of during my childhood (or which, whilst never acceptable, weren't actual swearing) that may cause offence more to some younger people. Bizarrely, racist language doesn't affect me in that way - well, it does and it doesn't - even though it is "way more severe" (except, in terms of physical impact on me, it often is not - except on... yes, broadcasting again and only ever before 9pm, following, it now seems, the useless creation of the watershed. Yes, I know it's there for protection of children etc. and therefore a "good" reason. To protect them from what they cannot be protected for and, for me, with the over-protection in my childhood, is exactly why I have the problems I have now. Really wish it had never been done now. So many people over the years caused offence by TV - and only ever before 9pm. Actually, they'd better not bleep racist language at any time or day or night as that will really get me:rotfl:.

But, seriously, it's because, as a person with Asperger's - and I can only speak for myself as other people with Asperger's will not be affected in the same way - indeed, with some, unknowingly "inappropriate" behaviour, including swearing, can be occasionally found, but I don't think it's regular across people with my condition at all as we have learned the social convention. And, at least with me, we comply with it to a tee. More so than anyone else whatsoever. And, when told, as a child, that I "never" swear (really made it absolutely horrible - a word you can never say), I took it really literally and I'm inappropriate in informal environments as I never swear. I've suppressed myself so much, in literal compliance with my parents/teachers rule, that I'm unable to physically bring myself to do it (maybe it's because I "fear" causing someone offence. Even though none at all will be caused there, since all the rest of the company are doing it and not causing anyone any).

People assume - wrongly again - that I don't like people swearing in general and I have some objection to it. I come across as this people who talks formally all the time, never with any swears or any hint of them - I could literally bash my leg with a hammer and feel extreme swear inside but all that will come out of my mouth, even in that situation, will be "oh dear!" - if anyone else is around me. If I'm on my complete own, then, well, anything is fair game:rotfl::rotfl:. I do it entirely alone, all the time, and deliberately, as I really like it.

I think it should be done as much as possible and I feel like swearing now - I find it much easier to write than to say - although I'm not going to do so. I can bring myself it write it, elsewhere, not here but purely because of the site's rules not because I could not do so or don't want to, but it took me 20 years before I broke that taboo. Until then, I was using asterisks - and interesting (or not:rotfl:) is the fact that, in Florida(?) university research of the 1980s - I know it's a different country so not quite comparable - in an anonymous questionnaire - and I'm a man - all respondents except two used the actual words and both of those two, that used asterisks, were female. These were college age students, of a younger age than me yet I was still unable to bring myself to write the full words until several years later in my life, which I think says a lot. (It says it's been much stronger for me than people on average.) Nowadays, we have 18 year olds that knit patterns with swearwords, and it is enjoyable:rotfl:. Back then, when I was 18, I wouldn't even dare to do it - and probably wouldn't do it even with asterisks if seen by my parents and, if I did it at all, would use those asterisk that now themselves most often infuriate me. Not because I object to the suppression but because it's now the same but with an added reminder of offence and, therefore, offensive. In theory perhaps, because sometimes it's not. I mean, if you try to harass me with asterisks, deliberately, then I'm just going to burst out laughing and not actually suffer the serious reaction because of how extreme you are being and how you are trying to be provocative but failing to be.

But I think I am wrongly perceived as less honest because I don't swear, when in fact with Asperger's I'm one of the most truthful people of all (sometimes, unintentionally, inappropriately so:o:rotfl: - at least on the odd instance in the distant past when I didn't realise that "you don't tell lies" wasn't meant as a literal rule. Teachers lying to me again:rotfl: - said you "don't tell lies" but that isn't true, because so-called white lies are deemed to be acceptable and, indeed, required (although I can never tell them - or never convincingly - and feel uncomfortable doing so, so I just avoid getting into situations around other people in the first place). Therefore, asking or requiring (in effect) of me to tell you your dress is really nice - when in truth it isn't:rotfl: - I won't provide the comforting reassurance that you rightly need as my statement that it's nice won't come across in a convincing tone. I think it'll come across as "that guy doesn't really mean it" and you'd be right as I don't really believe it and therefore I can't put my heart into the claim that it's a nice dress when it isn't!

But flipside is, don't worry, if you really do have a nice dress, then I'll tell you so (as long as it's not inappropriate such as an unwanted advance - I don't go round telling they have nice dresses, but if asked...) and, with me, you can be sure I have 100% belief that it is.
But, back to the swearing:eek:(:rotfl:), I think I come across as less honest (when I'm actually the most honest of all) and misunderstood as it's simply that I can't vocalise the words and lost friends, or not made them, because I was talking formally because I couldn't bring myself to swear (even if they were all doing so). Still can't, I really sound odd (in 'swearing' situations) - I need psychological therapy to encourage me to swear:rotfl: (and try to put right the damage that was done to me in my childhood, not intentionally by anyone but it really was - if only my parents had explained when it was appropriate and when it was not but, of course, parents don't do that - they give the blank general prohibition that isn't the truth, doesn't apply and does not reflect actual societal behaviour, that is understood by neurotypical children but taken rather literally by me). And I think it's also because swearing is from a different part of the brain - it does not go though the academic part of the brain with the vast majority of people but formed in the emotional parts, so is not considered in advance and they do it without always being aware, whereas with me, I think everything does go through the academic brain and is processed and considered carefully in advance - and therefore takes longer for me to speak - by which time the subject matter has moved on and I'm now inappropriate and boring as missed the right moment to speak - except when it comes to a special interest and then I just speak everything out, completely right and correct.

So I can only really swear when discussing about swearing itself (and sometimes I can't even swear there), but most people don't do that and, indeed, some people find it even more inappropriate to discuss rather than just do it naturally as part of social conversation (the real goodness, informality and relaxing effect of social swearing), social conversation whose rules I just don't get. Indeed, there aren't any concrete rules, so it's pointless me trying to search for a set of exact rules set out in text - they don't exist - I've no idea what bizarre social conventions or reasons behind some things that exist in conversation I have still yet to discover:rotfl: - the one more recently was when a woman, who knows I have Asperger's, just left me at a party and said she was going to have some "girl time" - that one really got me, I knew nothing about such a concept before and previously thought (for 26 years) that people were just leaving me because they didn't like me and didn't want to be with me - yet again, probably because I'm boring:rotfl: - but, really, there are strange things (not strange to you) within an otherwise just natural conversation - I never know what to say anyway - but from my POV, I've not even tried to learn body language, it would just be too much and I'm an old dog now, and it's just easier for me to be myself as usual and just say whatever I say. That's me naturally, and always bringing you back to that academic discussion that you have no interest in again:rotfl::o:o:rotfl::rotfl:.