Moving from part time to full time employment

cmchsmjm

Hello all.

Apologies if this is in the wrong section!

For a number of years now I have worked on a fixed number of days for my employer and there is a good chance that by the end of the Summer I will have used up those contracted days with 4-5 months still left until the day count is essentially reset. Demand for my services has increased to the point that it may be necessary for me to negotiate a full time position. My question is (two parts) in trying to determine my salary, should I ask for a simple multiple of additional days at my current rate or would it be normal for an employer to effectively reduce an overall day rate when offering a full time contract over a part time one? I would, I think, be eligible for a company car once I have a full time contract. I would imagine this then becomes part of the negotiated package. Sorry this is such a broad question but I really do not know what is reasonable to ask for or expect!

My current part time day rate is fairly high and my concern is that simply multiplying up pushes the full time salary into senior director territory...something I am not!

Any advice you good folk can give would be fantastic

Crazy_Jamie

There is no set answer to your question. I've seen plenty of examples where an employee who goes from full time to part time simply sees their salary reduced on a proportionate basis, and indeed I've seen a proportionate increase in the reverse scenario. It is something that I would go as far as saying that I would generally expect to see, because ultimately your current salary remunerates you in the main for the hours that you work, and if those hours increase by a certain percentage you would expect your salary to increase accordingly. However, it will not always be appropriate. By your own admission your part time salary is very good, so it may be that simply increasing it proportionally provides an unrealistic figure for a full time wage, or it may be that a full time position has benefits that may result in a slightly lower wage than would be strictly proportionate as a result.

At the same time, however, this will be a negotiation process. You'd have logic on your side to a degree in asking for your salary to increase by the same proportion as your working days/hours, so why not start with that and see how your employer responds?

theoretica

Are you employed or contracting? Do you want a full time position?

Most part time employment is simply a fraction of full time - 1 day a week would get 1/5th of the pay.

cmchsmjm

I have taken on an additional role that has made my job interesting again. I never had a real desire to work for the company full time and it was only last year that I actually drew up a 'pros and cons' list for myself about the job!

theoretica...As it stands, I would welcome a full time position if the package was right. Sounds obvious I guess.

Crazy Jamie...If the opportunity to sit down and discuss a full time position does arise then I suppose you have a good point. A simple multiple of my current day rate is as good a place as any to start. My employer and I can always negotiate back from the position. Nothing to lose really.

Savvy_Sue

I'd certainly multiply up from the current situation, but then work out what your bottom line is. While you're doing that, think about what you're potentially losing by working full-time - I do a four day week and wouldn't go back to five.

getmore4less

What are the current contractual arrangements when you complete the annual days?

You seem to be in a position to ask for more not less.

Make sure you get holidays for all worked days not just contractual.

Could you adapt your current annual days to have a variable component and an enhanced rate for days with certain rules.

cmchsmjm

The role/contract is simply a set amount of days per year. I don't work on set days. I could be involved on a project for 2 days one week, nothing for a few weeks then work 10 days straight for example. The company increased the amount of days I worked for them a good few years back but the prospect of a full time position was never on the radar..until now!