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Do You Have Any Protection?

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  • marsman802
    marsman802 Posts: 558 Forumite
    For me it is part and parcel of the whole mortgage.
    Why risk it when I've got a whole family relying on me? Just seems such a no brainer - I don't want anyone to worry about anything should the worst happen to me.
    I appreciate it is quite different if you do not have dependents and I can see why you wouldn't be totally sold on it.
    To me it just isn't fair to leave this huge burden on everyone...a £400k policy for just £65pm starting at the age of 32 seems pretty reasonable to me when I spend £50 a month on a mobile phone.
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,782 Forumite
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    Anyone comparing life insurance or critical illness insurance with car insurance, breakdown cover, or talking about odds and chances of claim is totally missing point.


    If you had ever handed our claims cheques to widows, orphans, or someone recently diagnosed with cancer or MS, you might understand what this insurance is about.


    I sincerely hope every one of my life and sickness protection insurance clients are 'wasting' their money but I suspect that is not the case.
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • rover25
    rover25 Posts: 387 Forumite
    Do most of the illness policies pay out for a maximum time. I looked at a few & think they were saying they would pay for 12-24mths.
    Is this correct?
    If you had sick pay for the same time, would they still be worth it? Do they still pay out if you are receiving sick pay from your employer?
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,888 Forumite
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    The online cheap policies usually pay out for 1, 2 or even 5 years, but as the average claim is 6-7 years you are underinsuring if you are mr/mrs average.

    When the polciy kicks in and how much for depends on your sick pay at work. Someone on the NHS for example would get 6 months full pay and 6 months half pay.

    So if you were insuring yourself as best you could, you would have half of the benefit kick in after 6 months and half after 12 months. However, the cost may be too high so you may decide to have 3 months wages set aside and then have the full benefit kick in after 12 months. The longer the deferred period, the cheaper the premiums.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 22,563 Forumite
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    Unfortunately far too many people think they are immortal, and leave their loved ones in a financial mess because they don't insure themselves and in the case of unmarried partners fail to make a will.

    There are plenty of threads elsewhere on this forum with such tales of woe, and people who do this IMO are utterly irresponsible.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,072 Forumite
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    Do most of the illness policies pay out for a maximum time. I looked at a few & think they were saying they would pay for 12-24mths.
    Is this correct?

    That is budget PPI. Not proper income protections. PHI (permanent health insurance) can pay you right up until retirement. Comparison sites prefer PPI as its an easier sell and more profitable.
    If you had sick pay for the same time, would they still be worth it? Do they still pay out if you are receiving sick pay from your employer?

    You set the deferment period to match the end of your employer sick pay.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • rover25
    rover25 Posts: 387 Forumite
    Any recommendations for PHI?
  • anotheruser
    anotheruser Posts: 3,485 Forumite
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    I'm not particularly arguing for either side :)

    But I do see it as a bit expendable at the moment.

    I don't have pet insurance, I'm happy to pay when it happens... if it happens.

    Coming back to your point about mobile phone insurance David White - the liklihood of needing that particular insurance is much more greater than critical illness or something similar.

    I guess that is what insurance is about; weighing up the chance of it happening. If my cat gets ill, so ill it's too much for me to pay, I'll accept and put them to sleep. The difference is, if I insured them now, I might be paying £12 a month, for 7/8/9 years before I need it. If I saved that money in a seperate account, I am sure it would be enough to cover what I needed.

    Again, I understand this is completely different insurance, but the principle is the same.
  • Dan-Dan
    Dan-Dan Posts: 5,279 Forumite
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    I might be paying £12 a month, for 7/8/9 years before I need it.

    And the rest...it goes up each year doesnt it?
    Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,436 Forumite
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    When the changes in SMI are made turning the benefit into a secured loan, there should be a mandatory protection rule introduced so borrowers can continue to make their payments in the event of illness or unemployment.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
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