Universal Credit

dranzer01

tomtontom wrote: »

You were not made redundant, you were sacked. So you lied.



Each time you signed on you would have declared that you had not worked during the previous two weeks. More lies.

Elsewhere you are wondering why you keep getting dismissed from jobs. I can hazard a guess. Can you?

yup, i keep getting dismissed from jobs because i keep lying; thats it -

redundancy - fired, ok i get it mixed up... not that serious.

Xikams

dranzer01 wrote: »

i just want to know how UNIVERSAL CREDIT benefits people who are unemployed/redundant?

the only thing i can see which is different to JSA is that they look into your bank account to see how much you got paid/where the money came from/which orgnisation... and if its above £300, UNIVERSAL CREDIT gives you NOTHING for that month...

JSA, sign on every 2 weeks and receive around £170 every 2 weeks, without question...

so why did they change it over...?


and for the people on UC or alike, how can i obtain some form of money... as there is no way i can receive £600 on april 25th (final pay from work) and not get UC on 5th june (because it was over the threshold), but they telling me i have to wait now till 5th july.......



thats just ridiculous.....

Also they do not treat the first week as payable but you still have to abide by the terms and conditions of the agreement, according to my work coach. ie. with JSA it used to only be 2 days. My jobcenter offers cash upfront if you really need it but you have to pay it back. It's not very friendly for honest jobseekers.

On the plus side as I said earlier they will offer to put towards things on condition of a job offer, in my case a cheap pushbike, so I might be able to save £50-100. And better yet there ARE jobs out there. I got an interview last week after only 1 week of looking, and should have two more lined up next week, plus sites like totaljobs and indeed are full of jobs - the location map feature on totaljobs is really good, I recommend it.

auldblerk

pmlindyloo wrote: »

I don't know what area you live in and the criteria that is being used for UC in that area.

If you read this link

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/before-you-apply/universal-credit-eligibility/

there are certain restrictions in some areas which means that you can't claim UC. One of those is if you earn over a certain amount (read the link)

If you are in one of those areas then it is perfectly possible to claim JSA and HB and CT reduction instead of UC.

There is a UC helpline number in the link so give them a call.

JSa is no different to UC in that it will look at your pay and the period it was paid for. The redundancy money (if that is what is was) would be counted as savings. I suspect that it was probably more like pay in lieu of notice/holiday pay.

In any case, telephone the help line and find out what you should do.

If you're on universal credit, you don't getting anything for approx 5 weeks no matter what it is or how much you get unless it's in the thousands

Mersey_2

auldblerk wrote: »

I was on the trial (30,000 of us guinea pigs in the north west) and it was just universal credit. Have just had a second 'dose' of it for two months.
It's gradually rolling out to the rest of the country

Mr Generous is correct.


UC is a means-tested benefit.


If you were entitled to contributions-based JSA, you should not have been accepted for UC at the gateway interview.

Xikams

sangie595 wrote: »

It won't matter. They check with employers what the reason for leaving was.

Interesting thing about this. My last job ended up in a bit of a bust-up between me and my manager and HR. I explained this to the job coach. She just shrugged and said, as long as it was outside the last 3 months they didn't care.

This is a big difference to the usual punishment for walking out of a job. When I became voluntary employed several years ago, they said I'd get nothing for 6 months. Fair enough. Now it's down to three apparently. So now technically, if you work and save enough, you can walk out of your job, and a few months later you can get back on the dole.

Now I googled hard on this, because the circumstances of leaving my last job were not normal. I quit, in the same day I went back to HR and they said yes, then there was this big argument with the manager, etc. essentially they offered me my job back and then withdrew it after my resignation, it's kind of like a goth punk girl you screw then find out she's been screwing your friends, it's complicated. But my work coach didn't care, she just said, if it happened over three months ago, it didn't matter.

Housing Benefit has always been easy to claim - honestly this has kept me from homelessness many times. I've lived in hostels for almost 2 years of my adult life and while most went back to drugs I got a room and a job. So I'm looking forward to HB getting harder to claim. But if it gets easy to claim JSA like this, then it's not much incentive to stop people from walking out of jobs, and I bet they'll make HB harder to claim. It's a step in the wrong direction: if you've ever lived in a hostel, you'll know that your address is basically blacklisted and you'll be lucky to get a job in the first place. Your home comes before the job.

auldblerk

Mersey wrote: »

Mr Generous is correct.


UC is a means-tested benefit.


If you were entitled to contributions-based JSA, you should not have been accepted for UC at the gateway interview.

Only issue here is I was on contributions-based JSA roughly 8 months previous to this so will probably explain why I went directly on to Universal Credit