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It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.

It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.

Scotland wasn't allowed to leave the UK, even though the people voted for it. It was rigged.

Spain wasn't allowed to leave the EU, Greese wasn't allowed to leave the EU the U.K. has vast majority wanting to leave but it's goin to be rigged again.
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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    LOL. Friday jokes, love it.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,133 Forumite
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    Garethgrew wrote: »
    It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.

    Scotland wasn't allowed to leave the UK, even though the people voted for it. It was rigged.

    Spain wasn't allowed to leave the EU, Greece wasn't allowed to leave the EU the U.K. has vast majority wanting to leave but it's going to be rigged again.
    Don't be ridiculous, that is about as far fetched as suggesting that Brexit will lead to world war 3....
    I think....
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    No need to rig anything.
    The referendum result is not legally binding and parliament could just ignore it. :D
    "The European Union Referendum Act 2015 only provides for holding a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU: it does not provide that the government is legally obliged to take action on whatever the public decides."
    https://bucks.ac.uk/content/newsroom/2016/Dr_Lars_Mosesson
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    No need to rig anything.
    The referendum result is not legally binding and parliament could just ignore it. :D

    https://bucks.ac.uk/content/newsroom/2016/Dr_Lars_Mosesson

    There would be a crisis in parliament if that happened. I can't imagine there would be more MP's on the side of ignoring the vote, I sincerely hope not otherwise there are bigger problems than the EU to be sorting out.
  • CathA
    CathA Posts: 1,207 Forumite
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    Speaking as someone who has actually done vote counting in local, council and general elections etc, I can assure you that the system for counting, verifying and reporting the count is very tightly controlled and double checked at every level.
    When I have been counting, it is quite often very noticeable when one or other candidate has a lead, even before the final winner is announced. I think if the was an issue at any count that numbers were altered/massaged, call it what you will, it would have been noticed!
  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    Do you realise the reason we use pencil on paper is precisely because of the paranoia that votes could be rigged, so every single step is verifiable. Representatives from opposing factions travel with the ballot boxes to the counting centres, pencil can't fade like disappearing ink, there's no mechanical or electrical process obscuring results, etc. It's labour intensive precisely because everyone can understand it and witness democracy in action.

    Scotland didn't leave the union because that was the will of the electorate - surprisingly everyone doesn't think alike and some people see the picture very differently.

    As for IN/OUT, I've yet to hear a compelling reason to leave the EU, and can see some good trains for staying, so that's how I'll vote. That may not be how you'll vote, but in a system where the whole process is transparent, manual and rugged, both of our votes will be trustworthy and counted.
  • Jason74
    Jason74 Posts: 650 Forumite
    Garethgrew wrote: »
    It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.

    Scotland wasn't allowed to leave the UK, even though the people voted for it. It was rigged.

    Spain wasn't allowed to leave the EU, Greese wasn't allowed to leave the EU the U.K. has vast majority wanting to leave but it's goin to be rigged again.

    !!!!!! are you on about?.
  • Jonbvn
    Jonbvn Posts: 5,562 Forumite
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    Garethgrew wrote: »
    Spain wasn't allowed to leave the EU, Greese wasn't allowed to leave the EU the U.K. has vast majority wanting to leave but it's goin to be rigged again.

    With spelling like this, I don't hold out much hope for the result of your recent English GCSE.;)
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • onamissionEU
    onamissionEU Posts: 80 Forumite
    Whilst the OP might be a little over excited, may I just bring up the recent election in Austria where it has been reported that one province had a voter turn-out of over 140%!?
    Generally, if one were to "rig" a vote, the postal ballot would be the easy way to do so... And in the Austrian vote the postal vote came out at over 70% for pro EU guy allowing him to win over all by a few thousand votes....
    When all polls and actual ballot voting is reported at 50/50 and the postal vote comes in at something like 73/27 one would be forgiven for thinking that something is amiss....
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Whilst the OP might be a little over excited, may I just bring up the recent election in Austria where it has been reported that one province had a voter turn-out of over 140%!?
    Could you link to this reporting? Cheers.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
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