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HP Loan Query

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yoshiyella
yoshiyella Posts: 610 Forumite
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Hello All,

I'm writing on behalf of my friend who last year took out a HP and has regretted it since and wanted me to try and sort it out for him.

I have been trying to work out his settlement figure using the loan repayment calculator through The Guardian with the details on his agreement but they don't appear to tally up!

The amount of credit is £7710
48 payments of £259.14
APR is 29.10%
An option to pay fee of £10

(It also states Rate of Interest per annum is 15.00% and then on next page it states The rate of interest charged is calculated at 15.30% per annum and is applied on the date this agreement is signed. the interest rate is fixed for the duration of the agreement)

Interest payable £4718.72

Can anyone help explain the discrepancies

Thanks :)

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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    yoshiyella wrote: »
    ...(It also states Rate of Interest per annum is 15.00% and then on next page it states The rate of interest charged is calculated at 15.30% per annum and is applied on the date this agreement is signed. the interest rate is fixed for the duration of the agreement)

    Interest payable £4718.72...

    £4,718.72 is 15% of £7,710 for four years.

    And generally speaking if you want to convert a flat rate of interest to APR, you double it and knock off a bit, so a 29% APR looks about right.

    Can't see any discrepancies myself.
  • Nearlyold
    Nearlyold Posts: 2,371 Forumite
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    You need to put 29% into the Guardian loan calculator not 15% as the interest rate. The Guardian loan calculator is not designed to work with Flat rates.
  • yoshiyella
    yoshiyella Posts: 610 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts
    Nearlyold wrote: »
    You need to put 29% into the Guardian loan calculator not 15% as the interest rate. The Guardian loan calculator is not designed to work with Flat rates.

    I have done so! And that is where the discrepancies lie! I just have to assume that Guardian loan calculator is incorrect!
  • Nearlyold
    Nearlyold Posts: 2,371 Forumite
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    What is the discrepancy? Were there any arrangements fees these are factored in to the APR
  • yoshiyella
    yoshiyella Posts: 610 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts
    Nearlyold wrote: »
    What is the discrepancy? Were there any arrangements fees these are factored in to the APR

    No arrangement fees - what I listed above is straight from his agreement.

    Well the APR according to the Guardian is 25.81% and he was told and the paperwork shows 29.10%.

    I'm just trying to get all figures right before I contact them on his behalf.

    Basically I am trying to work out how much he needs to pay to get to the half way point so that he can hand back the vehicle.
  • ~Brock~
    ~Brock~ Posts: 1,715 Forumite
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    yoshiyella wrote: »
    Basically I am trying to work out how much he needs to pay to get to the half way point so that he can hand back the vehicle.

    You shouldn't need to work that out. It should already be stated on the agreement.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    yoshiyella wrote: »
    ...Well the APR according to the Guardian is 25.81% and he was told and the paperwork shows 29.10%....

    The APR is 29.10% according to this site.

    http://money-saving-calculators.prudentminds.com/apr-calculator.html
    yoshiyella wrote: »
    ....Basically I am trying to work out how much he needs to pay to get to the half way point so that he can hand back the vehicle.

    That's based on the total amount payable on the HP deal. At a guess, he will have reached the half way point after the 25th payment.:)
  • National_Debtline
    National_Debtline Posts: 7,998 Organisation Representative
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    yoshiyella wrote: »
    No arrangement fees - what I listed above is straight from his agreement.

    Well the APR according to the Guardian is 25.81% and he was told and the paperwork shows 29.10%.

    I'm just trying to get all figures right before I contact them on his behalf.

    Basically I am trying to work out how much he needs to pay to get to the half way point so that he can hand back the vehicle.


    Hi yoshiyella


    It's worth remembering that he is entitled to voluntarily terminate and return the car at any time, whether he has repaid 50% or not. The lender can work out whether he is short of this threshold after recovering the vehicle, and then bill him accordingly.


    Dennis
    @natdebtline
    We work as money advisers for National Debtline and have specific permission from MSE to post to try to help those in debt. Read more information on National Debtline in MSE's Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help guide. If you find you're struggling with debt and need further help try our online advice tool My Money Steps
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