When will my wife get her pension?

greenglide

It is from the NINO, not the date of birth.

I have been struggling to remember which part of the NINO is used in this calculation (failing memory?).

Even then you would also need know where the 1, 2, 3 or 4 maps onto the calendar (renewal cycle 1 could have been the week commencing 1/1/1990 (say) and every four weeks since.

I was hoping someone else could answer this one!

xylophone

It is from the NINO, not the date of birth.

Are you saying that there will no longer be five payment days according to the last two numbers of the NINO as in post 29?

It is clear that under old state pension arrangements, the pensioner could find that he had several days after his birthday when he was not eligible for any payment.

Under the new system, the pensioner becomes eligible for payment from his birthday.

Thus under the old system, Freddie (65 on Monday 4 July, NINO last 2 digits in 0-19 range) would have become eligible for first payment from Mon 11 July and received his pension four weeks in arrears on 8th August?

Under the new system he should receive his pension on 1 August?

(I am assuming that the fact this is a Bank Holiday in Scotland will not affect payments in other parts of the UK - if it does then the payment would be in his bank account on the previous Friday)?

Do you have a link (other than those from Age UK and PAS) that explain the new system in detail as in post 29 or the "renewal cycle"?

greenglide

The payday (Monday to Friday) is calculated from the last two digits of the NINO as you said. However, if paid other than weekly, the renewal cycle determines which of the possible two weeks, four weeks or 13 weeks you actually get paid on - they are spread out, I believe based on the NINO as well.

Only if you know both can you know that the first payment will be on a Friday (the payday) and it will be Friday 3rd June for this person (the renewal cycle), payment is from SPa date up the 3rd June and each 4 weeks from then on.

I can't find anything that explains the renewal cycle calculations.

mgdavid

greenglide wrote: »

The payday (Monday to Friday) is calculated from the last two digits of the NINO as you said. However, if paid other than weekly, the renewal cycle determines which of the possible two weeks, four weeks or 13 weeks you actually get paid on - they are spread out, I believe based on the NINO as well.

Only if you know both can you know that the first payment will be on a Friday (the payday) and it will be Friday 3rd June for this person (the renewal cycle), payment is from SPa date up the 3rd June and each 4 weeks from then on.

I can't find anything that explains the renewal cycle calculations.

from what I've read elsewhere on MSE I believe you can only change the payment period *after* commencement of SP payments. Therefore in the context of the OP's question the renewal cycle looks to be irrelevant?

greenglide

from what I've read elsewhere on MSE I believe you can only change the payment period *after* commencement of SP payments.

By default SP and nSP are paid four weekly in arrears. The first payment will be on the next "payday when you actually are paid" after the SPa date.

You can opt for weekly or 13 weekly payments (13 weekly may be limited to overseas payments though) and annual payments are an option for overseas payments where the amount is very small. You can change at any time.

xylophone

I can't find anything that explains the renewal cycle calculations.

It would seem that the answer is for Freddie to ring the DWP and ask....he will then be able to enlighten us all.... the excitement is killing me..:)

maximumgardener

xylophone wrote: »

It would seem that the answer is for Freddie to ring the DWP and ask....he will then be able to enlighten us all.... the excitement is killing me..:)

yep. exactly .
if its that critical to know first exact payment date, best just speak to a real person at DWP
its pretty exciting for sure!! MG

greenglide

For payment of SP or nSP paid four weekly in arrears (so that is all since 2010 or so) the renewal cycle is derived from the NINO suffix.

A = 1
B = 2
C = 3 and
D = 4

This tells how they all relate to each other but not the absolute starting week.

If anyone who is already in receipt of a state pension paid 4 weekly in arrears can tell us the NINO suffix and the week in which they are paid (any date in the week) then all others can be derived from this (it goes 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1- 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 forever more).

Cannot quote a source he said "don't quote me"!

For any other periodicity or payment in advance it tends to be based on the date of birth and is horrendously complicated.

bigfreddiel

My wife gets paid four weekly, next payment is Friday 20 May, her suffix is a B and last two digits are 02.

She started her state pension in 2008, I.e. The old system

So my details are 06 C and I'm 65 on Monday 4th July.

Cheers fj

xylophone

Maximum Gardener might help.

I was SPA on 17th Feb 2015 a Tuesday at (65) . made my claim in advance by phone where the lady I spoke to was very helpful and advised me my first payment date would be 4 weeks later , paid in arrears on (or very close to) 19th March 2015, thereafter 4 weekly on a Wednesday. Thats what happened......welcome to the club!! MG

Oscar too might help

That's when I got mine, SPA 20/10/15 1st payment 17/11