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Bank Bailout Ahoy!

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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    or by much less that 1% so say one of the safest investments possible and absolutely a profit center

    It didn't turn out that way for the Northern Rock, Bradford & Bingley, the Dunfermline, or all those building societies that had to be bailed out. Including the Britannia, who then crippled the Co-Op Bank.

    But excluding the Manchester Building Society which is still pretty much stuffed.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    We all know where this leads though.

    I'm not particularly convinced that the Barclays offer is particularly dangerous.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    antrobus wrote: »
    I'm not particularly convinced that the Barclays offer is particularly dangerous.


    Nor am I.

    Extra letters.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    In short, grab your inheritance now and lock it into the bank, so your parents/others can't spend it .... and if you're an idiot and get repossessed, your parents' savings are hijacked until any loss is repaid.

    Marvellous. What could possibly go wrong.

    The DM can publish articles for years to come *cue photo of grumpy/furious looking couples with arms crossed* "Barclays Stole our Life Savings"
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    edited 4 May 2016 at 1:27PM
    So few mortgage holders default in the UK that even 5% down mortgages are virtually risk free

    even of the very low repo rate a segment (perhaps the majority) will end as no loss to the lender

    The regulator needs to understand this and bring back self cert bring back interest only (or a hybrid eg 5 years interest only then 25 years repayment)
  • Hutchch0920
    Hutchch0920 Posts: 291 Forumite
    Did anyone watch the film The Big Short?

    As a potential FTB I am all for providing access to better products to provide assistance but 5.5 x income + 100% LTV is bonkers.

    .....we are edging ever closer into the subprime mortgage territories.
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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Did anyone watch the film The Big Short?

    As a potential FTB I am all for providing access to better products to provide assistance but 5.5 x income + 100% LTV is bonkers.

    .....we are edging ever closer into the subprime mortgage territories.

    There is nothing particularly wrong with a subprime mortgage if it's priced correctly and the lender can't stuff it off-balance sheet and avoid the capital requirements.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    antrobus wrote: »
    It didn't turn out that way for the Northern Rock, Bradford & Bingley, the Dunfermline, or all those building societies that had to be bailed out. Including the Britannia, who then crippled the Co-Op Bank.

    But excluding the Manchester Building Society which is still pretty much stuffed.

    who actually lost any money except a few shareholders?
    savers?
    house buyers?
    government/tax payers?
  • martinsurrey
    martinsurrey Posts: 3,368 Forumite
    Did anyone watch the film The Big Short?

    As a potential FTB I am all for providing access to better products to provide assistance but 5.5 x income + 100% LTV is bonkers.

    .....we are edging ever closer into the subprime mortgage territories.

    but this is NOT 100%, its a 90% mortgage, its a none story.
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    So few mortgage holders default in the UK that even 5% down mortgages are virtually risk free

    Over what time period are you measuring this? Defaults are a function of lenience of the banks and from what I hear, in the late 80s they weren't very lenient but are much more so now. Also, we've had falling rates for many decades which means existing owners benefit big time and default less.
    The regulator needs to understand this and bring back self cert bring back interest only (or a hybrid eg 5 years interest only then 25 years repayment)

    Those maths guys at the banks need to listen to this internet guy. Because 2007 only happened over there, it could never happen over here. Can't lose in British bricks and mortar.

    I'm waiting for 100% IO mortgages at 1% rates so I can afford the mansion on the river that I want.
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