Roast in the bag chicken!

Mr_Singleton

patchwork_cat wrote: »

Have you not heard about the Campylobacter in chickens these days. Nearly 70% of chickens have campylobacter

Its what happens when people grudgingly pay £2/kg for industrial factory farmed chicken.

Mr_Singleton

fuddle wrote: »

t I have the view that the most beautiful bird can be cooked to perfection in a dimpled lidded enamel tin.

I also have the view that heating plastic amongst food isn't too great an idea. I don't have the science why but alarm bells ring in my mind so I avoid.

Round of applause!

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

It is the coop. I don't buy their meat. It is labelled meat sourced in EU. I like my meat to be sourced locally.

And besid s, the coop is expensive.

honeythewitch

tessie_bear wrote: »

i thought it was to stop people washing raw chicken and flicking bacteria all over the kitchen..

I think the whole thing is ridiculous.
Anyone who is unaware of food poisoning from chicken shouldn't be allowed near one, and the bag gives the impression of being "clean" yet an awful lot of chicken is contaminated on the packaging.
Also, the best way to see if a chicken is cooked through is to simply check it, and that is an awful lot harder if it encased in a bag.
I daresay some who wash chicken will cut the bag open and carry on (because it is cultural for some) so it might have been better to suggest safer ways of washing it, such as using a deep bowl of water, than trying to ban it.

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Its what happens when people grudgingly pay £2/kg for industrial factory farmed chicken.

Yes, but it happens in free range chicken too.

pigpen

Feral_Moon wrote: »

I don't live anywhere close to a Lidl so wasn't aware they sold stuffed/seasoned ones. That would make more sense to me.

I'm just wondering what the whole "cook in the bag" theme is all about though, and who it's aimed at (particularly with unseasoned/unflavoured poultry). Surely it would just put people off eating chicken?

I can cook a far tastier bird and just as succulent by roasting it fresh myself. I actually thought cooking it in this bag might enhance the flavour somehow. How wrong was I lol

That is exactly how I love it .. I hate the breast meat too.. I don't have anything on it at all..

'cook in the bag' is just about making it easy for people who don't know how or don't have time or simply cannot be bothered to faff with dead flesh.. next best thing to convenience food maybe. I do like the ones spitroast at the butchers though.. and the ham shanks they do.. they are my kind of convenience.. are those any cheaper than the bag roast ones? I was just thinking it might be easier for you and more appetising.. they do them with various seasonings at tesco.. from spicy to naked!

I do prefer a nice fresh lump of bird.. but I wrap it in foil and oven it or I chuck the chook in the slowcooker.. occasionally with an onion up its bum.. it makes nice gravy

I don't like the meat from Lidl, it always looks on the turn to me.. you know that greenish oily sheen they get? That said Tesco have delivered rancid birds to me before (well in date too!) so they are no better!

You live and learn.. and now you know you're nt a fan you know not to buy it again

I do buy the roasting bags for pork though.. they are lovely done in them.. I chop a leek in and mushrooms and use that and the juices for gravy.. it's one of my favourites!

honeythewitch

pigpen wrote: »

That is exactly how I love it .. I hate the breast meat too.. I don't have anything on it at all..

'cook in the bag' is just about making it easy for people who don't know how or don't have time or simply cannot be bothered to faff with dead flesh.. next best thing to convenience food maybe. I do like the ones spitroast at the butchers though.. and the ham shanks they do.. they are my kind of convenience.. are those any cheaper than the bag roast ones? I was just thinking it might be easier for you and more appetising.. they do them with various seasonings at tesco.. from spicy to naked!

I do prefer a nice fresh lump of bird.. but I wrap it in foil and oven it or I chuck the chook in the slowcooker.. occasionally with an onion up its bum.. it makes nice gravy

I don't like the meat from Lidl, it always looks on the turn to me.. you know that greenish oily sheen they get? That said Tesco have delivered rancid birds to me before (well in date too!) so they are no better!

You live and learn.. and now you know you're nt a fan you know not to buy it again

I do buy the roasting bags for pork though.. they are lovely done in them.. I chop a leek in and mushrooms and use that and the juices for gravy.. it's one of my favourites!

That's a very good point about meat on the turn. It is quite hard to get a proper look at the chicken through the thick roasting bag, and with not handling it, if it was off you wouldn't know until it was too late. :eek:

meritaten

I don't buy these now - only ever bought one and the family complained there was no 'crispy chicken skin' to pinch.

I also used to work in a shop where we spit roast chickens on certain days and there used to be a 'waiting queue' for them!
they were sold at a premium and they were just given a dry rub about a minute before they went into the oven! only the skin could have tasted of anything. so I don't buy those either unless its a real emergency..........like DDs family inviting themselves for Sunday lunch an hour before its served!
the only way to get another flavour into the chicken is to either rub it UNDER the skin or stuff the cavity. and I can do that myself thank you very much!

JIL

Also so easy to undercook, I left the oh to cook one of these,followed the instructions to the letter, took it out and rested it. An hour later when the bag was openened, it became obvious that it wasn't cooked.

It may save on washing up but I'm not convinced the extra they cost is worth it.

Feral_Moon

patchwork_cat wrote: »

Have you not heard about the Campylobacter in chickens these days. Nearly 70% of chickens have campylobacter and you are no longer recommended to wash raw chicken or excessively handle them. Mostly roast in a bag have seasoning , I think all of Asda's do. I suppose it is personal taste as I can't stand chicken done in the slow cooker. ( I might add I don't buy these often as they are usually more expensive!)

I've never washed a chicken in my life! I've also never caught campylobacter from a chicken either. Cooking sufficiently takes care of any bacteria that may be present.

I think I'll just stick to roasting my chickens in the conventional way in future. It hasn't harmed me in almost 40 years of doing so, neither did it in my mother's or grandmothers' generations.

Unfortunately it was the only chicken available in the Co-op, so it seems they've now taken away the element of choice for its consumers. Although it didn't appear to be any more expensive at £3.50 for a 1.7kg bird. I'll just know to treat the "bag" as I would any other external packaging in future

suki1964

JIL wrote: »

Also so easy to undercook, I left the oh to cook one of these,followed the instructions to the letter, took it out and rested it. An hour later when the bag was openened, it became obvious that it wasn't cooked.

It may save on washing up but I'm not convinced the extra they cost is worth it.

Exact same happened to me this weekend. In fact I was going to post about it then I was so annoyed

First time in my life have I undercooked a chicken

I didn't realise it was a bagged chicken until I opened it. I did think about taking it out the bag and cooking as normal but I thought I'd give the bag a try as I'd just cleaned the oven

Followed the instructions, left it to rest, came to carve it, blood everywhere Thank heavens for microwaves ( and none of us were ill but I threw out the leftovers)

If I come across any more I will remove from the bag