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Train travelling help

I live in Norwich and will be starting to go to Birmingham a few times a month as I need to go to the hospital there. I've only ever got the train to London before and that was ages ago. I can drive but won't be able to as I have to have operations.

What is the cheapest way to travel by train from Norwich to Birmingham over the next few months?
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  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    I live in Norwich and will be starting to go to Birmingham a few times a month as I need to go to the hospital there. I've only ever got the train to London before and that was ages ago. I can drive but won't be able to as I have to have operations.

    What is the cheapest way to travel by train from Norwich to Birmingham over the next few months?

    Try putting your journey details into Trainsplit.
  • jbuchanangb
    jbuchanangb Posts: 1,339 Forumite
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    Hello

    I looked some up at random

    19/5 leave Norwich 9.30 arrive 13.27 advance single £13.50 via London.
    19/5 leave Birmingham 18.10 arrive Norwich 22.29 £16.50 via London

    The best cheap advance fares will always be via London, even though there is a route via Ely.

    The journey time via London is about 15-20 minutes longer than via Ely. You have to take a tube from Liverpool Street to Euston Square and walk along to Euston.

    You might be lucky and get an advance single via Ely, but my random look was showing about £33.

    The off-peak return via Ely is £84.70
  • So I'd have to go via London plus get a tube ticket to be able to transfer?
    DEBT: 27/12 £4060 :mad: 6/1 £3906 :beer: 15/1 £3756 :T 30/1 £3700 :cool: 7/2 £3911 :D19/4 £3108.93 :T 31/5 £3095.12
    May Challenge £5 a day: £5.41 / £155 June Challenge £5 a day: £22.25 / £155
    WON 2015: £50 Argos voucher, Xbox One, 2 cinema tickets, £10 Amazon voucher
  • jbuchanangb
    jbuchanangb Posts: 1,339 Forumite
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    For the cheapest fare the route is via London, but the tube travel is included in the fare. You don't need to get an additional ticket.
  • colcheslad
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    You could split at Peterborough to avoid having to go through London.

    Norwich to Peterborough - £20.90 rtn (1hr 30mins)
    Peterborough to Birmingham - £35.80 rtn (1hr 50mins)

    So £55 return, 2hrs 20mins in total (depending on connections).

    These are off-peak returns so you are not limited to one particular train, might be handy knowing how hospital appointments can overrun!
  • giraffe69
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    Norwich to Peterborough - £20.90 rtn (1hr 30mins)
    Peterborough to Birmingham - £35.80 rtn (1hr 50mins)

    So £55 return, 2hrs 20mins in total (depending on connections).

    Looks like 3hrs 20 to me!
  • colcheslad
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    Doh! It sure is, I blame the long day :D
  • jbuchanangb
    jbuchanangb Posts: 1,339 Forumite
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    I think you have to compare the fares and the time tables. I just compared a different date, 16th June

    Two departures from Norwich via London, namely 8am and 8.30am with advance single of £13.50. Return from Birmingham at 18.10 also £13.50. Round trip £27.

    If the OP has any chance of a railcard, then there's one-third (£9) to knock off that.

    The original question was - what is the cheapest fare, Norwich to Birmingham.

    If you know your hospital appointments well enough in advance - you can get these fares. The reason they are so cheap is because you are catching a Virgin train from Euston leaving after the morning peak, and there is a train every 20 minutes from Euston to Birmingham. You do have to travel on the specific booked train.

    You can't even use an off-peak return on the route via Ely until the 9.57 departure from Norwich, and then the return fare is £84.70. You could use ticket splitting, but I stand by my opinion that the best deal is the advance purchase single via London
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