Cameron Tax Dodger

padington

kabayiri wrote: »

That was tactical. The Conservatives were clearly worried about the rise of the UKIP vote.

Looking at the numbers that did vote for UKIP anyway in the GE, I think they had some justification to be concerned.

He was concerned of an attempt at an internal coup, not ukip winning the election. He chose the path of the least resistance to maximise chance's of personal success whilst maximising the risk of national disaster ( btw those were pretty much his words, not mine).

kabayiri

padington wrote: »

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It was tactically selfish, he jeopardised the whole united kingdom to increase the chance of him keeping the keys to number 10.

Bank rolling schools and hospitals on PFI money could also be considered selfish and short termist. It didn't stop them.

I think most politicians are pretty selfish.

mwpt

kabayiri wrote: »

Bank rolling schools and hospitals on PFI money could also be considered selfish and short termist. It didn't stop them.

I've obviously missed a story here. After a quick bit of googling, am I mistaken in thinking that PFI is a way for the government to hide borrowing figures?

kabayiri

mwpt wrote: »

I've obviously missed a story here. After a quick bit of googling, am I mistaken in thinking that PFI is a way for the government to hide borrowing figures?

It did allow one Gordon Brown to claim he was maintaining his so called Golden Rule, but that was ages ago.

I just think that a short termist politician will reap the accolades of a major building program in schools and hospitals, whilst leaving the issue about paying for all this to the next lot in power.

wotsthat

Tromking wrote: »

lol!
A case of mass delusional class envy I suppose?
I am aware that this discussion is taking place on a website where the antics of the Cameron Family makes them heroes to the terminally money savvy posters on here, but understand to ordinary simple voters, this behaviour is a mystery to them.
I suppose this non-story didn't drag Cameron`s sorry backside to the Commons this afternoon either?

You're reading too much into this.

The main story is that the media has come across some leaked documents and are feeding the frothers in an attempt to monetise their document haul.

They must be well pleased with the outcome. As long as frothers are frothing they don't care whether they're frothing about privileged toffs or scrounging benefit claimants.

Never have I seen such a bunch of boring self assessments but at least I now know Osborne has an interest in a wallpaper factory - who knew?

BobQ

michaels wrote: »

I seem to remember there were a lot of questions about the tax planning that went on with Milliband's inheritance from his parents, I don't remember it being such a huge issue for the BBC....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31452496

CLAPTON

chewmylegoff wrote: »

He is guilty of total incompetence in his PR strategy as he should have just been upfront from the start; by issuing a number of carefully worded press releases designed to skirt around the issue he demonstrate poor judgement in my view.

He isn't guilty of hypocrisy re tax avoidance as he hasn't avoided any tax.

he is a hypocrite because he condemned people who were behaving legally but not, in his opinion morally like e.g. Jimmy Carr
he has never has had any moral fibre or any moral principles : just the knee jerk re-action to events although I do give him credit for often talking but doing nothing

DiggerUK

The legality of what Cameron, and the Cameron family have done is not the issue. It's all legal.
The hypocrisy of David Cameron is not the issue either, hypocrisy and politicians are like peas and carrots.

The issue here is the conflict of interest as the head of the UK legislative assembly.
Public statements, that measures will be taken to curtail tax havens activities, have been made by him for years. Nothing has happened with UK legislation to make that happen. His chums and family have lost no sleep or income.
Yet correspondence to those in the EU trying to get legislation agreed to stop avoidance, have revealed that he has done everything he can to stymie such legislation.

Conflict of interest is obviously a matter of no importance to many posting here. It should be a matter of honour for any politician, but it looks like venality trumps honour in this mans case..._

chucknorris

CLAPTON wrote: »

he is a hypocrite because he condemned people who were behaving legally but not, in his opinion morally like e.g. Jimmy Carr
he has never has had any moral fibre or any moral principles : just the knee jerk re-action to events although I do give him credit for often talking but doing nothing

I must admit that I have been a bit lazy and I have not made much of an effort to find out exactly what he did do to avoid tax, but from what I've heard it wasn't particularly an aggressive tax avoidance (maybe I am wrong?). But Jimmy Carr's tax avoidance IMO was far too aggressive, there is no way that I would have done what he did (loans being issued to him, then written off etc.) even if it wasn't illegal.

I did try and find out, but I gave up (admittedly not that long after I started looking), does anyone know exactly what Cameron did to avoid paying tax?

michaels

CLAPTON wrote: »

he is a hypocrite because he condemned people who were behaving legally but not, in his opinion morally like e.g. Jimmy Carr
he has never has had any moral fibre or any moral principles : just the knee jerk re-action to events although I do give him credit for often talking but doing nothing

Am I misunderstanding. AFAIK using a company that is based outside the UK because the company has chosen to operate somewhere different for that company's tax reasons is what happens every time anyone makes a purchase from Amazon UK.

Many would argue that Amazon is avoiding taxes, few would claim that the person shopping from Amazon was doing so.