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Worried about reference from my old employer, help!

Hi,

My previous employer was trying to manage me out of my job and I left before they commenced a disciplinary. I confirmed with HR before I resigned that leaving would mean nothing would show on my record for future employers but I'm not convinced. I'm sure they were going to sack me on the day I resigned, they pretty much told me that but I never had any kind of formal disciplinary and I was told nothing had been recorded when I resigned. I'm now returning to a previous employer where I worked for 7 years but I'm worried that my latest employer are going to make me look bad or refuse a reference. If I officially did nothing wrong on record, can they legally mention anything negative?

I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts

Thank you
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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Yes, ofcourse.


    They have to be truthful, however truthful can be:


    "Unfortunately X didn't meet our standard of work"
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    And nobody can insist that they provide a reference, so yes, they can refuse to give one.
  • Br0416
    Br0416 Posts: 15 Forumite
    I'm not so concerned whether they say I didn't meet their standards, I'm wanting to establish whether they can mention any unrecorded disciplinary action. I didn't give the morons the opportunity to go down that route and I never had a review meeting discussing disciplinary and therefore I'd assume it can't be mentioned
  • Gavin83
    Gavin83 Posts: 8,757 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    They can mention pending disciplinary (if you leave during the process) and they can conduct a disciplinary after you leave. However they won't say they were considering disciplining you.

    I'd say it's only a problem if you've committed a serious offence, either an illegal act or a regulated job that could lead to you losing your licence. If it was just for being poor at your job I see this as very unlikely.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    "Unfortunetly BR0416 left the organisation before a date could be set for him to attend a disciplinary meeting, he/she resigned the same day we notified him/her of the process"
  • Guest101 wrote: »
    "Unfortunetly BR0416 left the organisation before a date could be set for him to attend a disciplinary meeting, he/she resigned the same day we notified him/her of the process"

    It's unlikely any HR department would go to the trouble of writing all that.

    Far more likely that HR assured them there wouldn't be anything on the reference because they know they barely put anything on the reference. And if they are asked whether there were any disciplinary issues they will answer "no" because it's far easier for them in every way.

    In almost all these cases where people are worrying about bad references, the important thing is that it's much easier for the former employer just to say nothing. If it was easier to screw over the ex-employee than not, they would screw them over, whether it was deserved or not, and whether they liked them or not. But if it's easier not to, they won't.
  • Hi OP

    The growing new way seems not to acknowledge references so I am in agreement with last poster.

    Nothing has to make an employer respond so it's really not what can be written.
  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 4,022 Forumite
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    get someone to contact them for a reference for you - a friend or family member that's thinking of taking you on. Happened to me years ago when I sacked someone for theft, I fell for it and told it straight!! Later found out it was one of his mates.
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
  • Br0416
    Br0416 Posts: 15 Forumite
    Basically they were looking to extend my probation period so I kicked off and got myself in trouble with my mouth. I did ask HR before I left and they advised me to resign and assured me it wouldn't effect future employment prospects but of course I have no way of proving that conversation took place.
  • Br0416
    Br0416 Posts: 15 Forumite
    That's just it, I was never informed of a disciplinary. I knew it was coming so resigned before it occurred
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