Trying to get hold of my Tesco pension pot ...........

I am trying to withdraw my apx. £10,500 pension pot from Tesco Pensions but am being stymied by - and I quote:

"We have calculated your benefits to be more than £30,000 which is above the trivial commutation limit and so we are unable to pay your benefits as a once only cash sum"

I maybe having a senior moment, but where does this £30,000 come in the equation? I've been searching for an explanation online and got nowhere.

Answers on a postcard, please :)
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  • LXdaddy
    LXdaddy Posts: 693 Forumite
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    Postcards take a long time (and you didn't supply a snailmail address).


    In the meantime you might find http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=70422537&postcount=5 and it's thread useful.


    I'll let the experts help you but the £30,000 is a limit for "small pots". Small pots can be converted into cash as a one time transaction.
  • Linton
    Linton Posts: 18,040 Forumite
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    Isnt Tesco a Defined Benefit (final salary) pension? If so:
    1) what is the £10500? Is it the Transfer Value or the pension/year or what.
    2) How old are you?
    3) What is the Transfer Value and the current value of the pension/year?
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,531 Forumite
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    Is this a Tesco defined benefits pension? Is it currently deferred?

    What is scheme Normal Retirement Age?

    Are you at least 55?

    See http://www.pruadviser.co.uk/content/knowledge/technical-centre/small_pots_an_defined_benefit_trivial_commutations/
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,100 Forumite
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    The £30,000 is not a cash value. it is the cash equivalent value for providing the same level of benefits.
    I am trying to withdraw my apx. £10,500 pension pot from Tesco Pensions

    Which basically means that you are trying to get £10,500 (Before tax) to give up benefits that have a monetary value of more than £30,000. If so, that doesn't seem to be a good idea (although there are some rare justifiable reasons).
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Mayday
    Mayday Posts: 614 Forumite
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    To answer all queries:

    It is a Defined Benefits pension - the scheme closed 2-3 years ago.

    I am 64 and retired from Tesco in November of last year.

    The £10,700 [it's gone up since I first applied to withdraw the lot] is the current value of my 'pot'

    I have no other income apart from my State Pension and some interest on savings.

    To receive £30,000 of 'benefits at a projected £455 pa, [according to Tesco Pensions] I'd have to live to 150!
  • bigadaj
    bigadaj Posts: 11,531 Forumite
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    Mayday wrote: »
    To answer all queries:

    It is a Defined Benefits pension - the scheme closed 2-3 years ago.

    I am 64 and retired from Tesco in November of last year.

    The £10,700 [it's gone up since I first applied to withdraw the lot] is the current value of my 'pot'

    I have no other income apart from my State Pension and some interest on savings.

    To receive £30,000 of 'benefits at a projected £455 pa, [according to Tesco Pensions] I'd have to live to 150!

    Are you saying that your pension is £455 per year, you don't have a pot though you may have been quoted a cetv sum that equates to a value of the pension should you want to move it to a dc scheme.

    Depending on the terms of the pension, and things such as inflation proofing, survivor benefits, your age etc then a pension of that sum would probably require an annuity currently of around £15000 so it seems odd that this is assumed to be valued at over £30k.
  • ScottyLP
    ScottyLP Posts: 87 Forumite
    Do you have any other pensions (other than state pension)? They also get included in the equation
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,531 Forumite
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    According to this https://www.ourtesco.com/our-benefits/tesco-benefits/pensions/ the DB Scheme closed only four months ago.

    Do you mean that you left Tesco at state retirement age and have now reached the age when your deferred pension becomes payable in full?

    What is the CETV?
  • Mayday
    Mayday Posts: 614 Forumite
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    ScottyLP wrote: »
    Do you have any other pensions (other than state pension)? They also get included in the equation

    No - only my State Pension as already stated.
  • Mayday
    Mayday Posts: 614 Forumite
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    xylophone wrote: »
    According to this https://www.ourtesco.com/our-benefits/tesco-benefits/pensions/ the DB Scheme closed only four months ago.

    Do you mean that you left Tesco at state retirement age and have now reached the age when your deferred pension becomes payable in full?

    What is the CETV?

    It closed long before that. I retired from Tesco last November after 6 years employment at age 63 and 7 months.

    Excuse my ignorance, but what is CETV?
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