Are you a good citizen?

Jack_Johnson_the_acorn

cells wrote: »

plus in the age of the machines and low marginal cost production the taxes are just a way to allow access to this production.

imagine cutting £52 billion from the poorest and giving businesses £52 billion in tax cuts. business cheers for a few weeks until they realise that their sales are down £1 billion a week and their profit down close to £1 billion a week.

Plus increased hostility and crime as seen in the London riots. Push people to extreme poverty/hardship and they react in an extreme manner.

Generali

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXn3r5plloI

SFW

Tromking

I've been a front-line public servant for 30 years at a not inconsiderable physical and mental cost to myself. Model Citizen.

Mistermeaner

Jack_Johnson_the_acorn wrote: »

I do judge you for not wanting to support the most vulnerable in society. I think you are ignorant towards the amount of human suffering that happens in this country. You are lucky to be in the position that you find yourself in. Don't kid yourself that you are somehow a better citizen than a heroine addict or a shop lifter when you have ultimately never experienced what they have.

Why do you presume to know what i have and have not experienced?

Why also do you think i don't want to support the mist vulnerable in society?

Mistermeaner

cells wrote: »

its £748 billion in spending = about £11,500 per capita or more than a million quid if you live to be 87 years old

Amazingly huge sum of money clearly most of us get more spent on us than we pay in taxes. An individual would probably need a lifetime income of £3-4 million in real terms to be somewhere around break even

So we need to cut spending or borrow ourselves into a greece situation? If what you say is correct thid cannot be sustainable (unless a small proportion of the population is paying loads more )

Generali

Personally I'm a bit of a !!!!!.

I drink too much. I'm a bit lazy. You know what I'm doing now? Eating crisps, drinking port and watching the gardening program on TV. I am off to a brewery tomorrow and plan to be half cut by early afternoon.

Balls to all this holier than thou stuff.

bugslet

padington wrote: »

How many animals were incarcerated and killed for your pleasure ? How much pollution did you create ? How many hearts broken? How messed up will your children be one day? How many problems did you make for those more stupid or weaker than you? How much social value or social loss does your job make? When you had lots of power, did you wield it for good or bad ?

It's a tough question, personally I think I have lots of improving to do and would have some concern for those that appeared to think they didn't.

I've been a nett contributor for about half my working life, partly by hard work, partly by luck, have my own pension and critical illness etc. Ten weeks of unemployment in 1985 - £264.00.

I tried to be vegan, never quite managed it, but it means that less animals have suffered, never broken anyone's heart, treat my staff very well.

On the other hand, I'm probably the most evil person here by virtue of running trucks. I'd like to take responsibility for kid's asthma, the state of the environment, squished hedgehogs, and delaying you on country roads/ not going fast enough on motorways. Though if people didn't manufacture stuff it wouldn't need taking to places and if people didn't buy so much, I'd be out of business. maybe I should stop bigging myself up.

Is there a prize?

bugslet

Generali wrote: »

Personally I'm a bit of a !!!!!.

I drink too much. I'm a bit lazy. You know what I'm doing now? Eating crisps, drinking port and watching the gardening program on TV. I am off to a brewery tomorrow and plan to be half cut by early afternoon.

Balls to all this holier than thou stuff.

I thought you exercised and ate well, I've been so wrong. You've suddenly become very attractive:D

chucknorris

Generali wrote: »

Personally I'm a bit of a !!!!!.

I drink too much. I'm a bit lazy. You know what I'm doing now? Eating crisps, drinking port and watching the gardening program on TV. I am off to a brewery tomorrow and plan to be half cut by early afternoon.

Balls to all this holier than thou stuff.

That isn't a bit lazy, that is very lazy, if you made more of an effort you could easily be completely drunk by the afternoon.

prosaver

chucknorris wrote: »

That isn't a bit lazy, that is very lazy, if you made more of an effort you could easily be completely drunk by the afternoon.

even better plan,:D after you get drunk have an hours sleep at 6pm and about 7.30 start drinking again ....
2 sessions in one day
:beer::beer: