Sugar Tax

cells

Generali wrote: »

Nah, it'll be in the ready to drink form.

It'll be interesting when it comes to cordial. On the odd occasion I drink Ribena I drink it at a far higher level of concentration than Frucor recommend. I find it insipid at their recommended level.

Obvs the plural of anecdote isn't data but at the same time it's fair to say that just a glance at the back of a packet or tin of food shows you that recommended serving sizes are unlikely. A single, small biscuit? 1 little cocktail/silverskin pickled onion? 12 cans of Special Brew?

Most of those are listed as the serving size in my cupboard.

A tax per gram of sugar might have been more logical.

Imagine it on actual sugar grown or imported. 1p per gram. It would be a true sugar tax and impact all added sugar products and would triple the price of sugar.

I dont think it would be a good idea but were I obsorbe it may seem a smart way to raise billions as there must be a lot more sugar consumed outside of fizzy drinks than in fizzy drinks and its to save the fat kids of course


EDIT: 1p per gram would not be possible! would result in nearly £15 billion in taxes which would be unsustainable. Maybe a 0.1p per gram tax might just about be acceptable/workable.

danothy

Generali wrote: »

I think you should weigh yourself ... after you've had a dump.

How am I poorer after I've had a dump?

Generali

cells wrote: »

A tax per gram of sugar might have been more logical.

Imagine it on actual sugar grown or imported. 1p per gram. It would be a true sugar tax and impact all added sugar products and would triple the price of sugar.

I dont think it would be a good idea but were I obsorbe it may seem a smart way to raise billions as there must be a lot more sugar consumed outside of fizzy drinks than in fizzy drinks and its to save the fat kids of course

It has to start somewhere.

Look at where we were with cigarettes 40 years ago (could smoke in the office), 30 years ago (could advertise cigars and perhaps cigs), 20 years ago (could smoke on the train), 10 years ago (could smoke in the pub).

You're not going to go from the majority of American men smoking to more land in the US being used to grow chickpeas than tobacco overnight. What we can do is make things a bit better. A tax on soda is a step forward IMHO.

michaels

There is the arguement that smokers more than pay for their extra health costs earlier in life by dying before they get old and expensive health problems plus the saving on pensions.

Has anyone done the same analysis for life-style caused diabetes?

Generali

danothy wrote: »

How am I poorer after I've had a dump?

It depends on what you are passing

Tiffany cuff links must weigh a fair bit for example

cells

Generali wrote: »

It has to start somewhere.

Look at where we were with cigarettes 40 years ago (could smoke in the office), 30 years ago (could advertise cigars and perhaps cigs), 20 years ago (could smoke on the train), 10 years ago (could smoke in the pub).

You're not going to go from the majority of American men smoking to more land in the US being used to grow chickpeas than tobacco overnight. What we can do is make things a bit better. A tax on soda is a step forward IMHO.

that assumes sugar = bad which probably is not true for moderate sugar consumption. 40 grams or less per day should probably be tax free but beyond that a tax might help but of course we cant tax on the individual level not without ration books

Another negative for soda or any fizzy drink is also the dental health.

Generali

michaels wrote: »

There is the arguement that smokers more than pay for their extra health costs earlier in life by dying before they get old and expensive health problems plus the saving on pensions.

Has anyone done the same analysis for life-style caused diabetes?

Not that I am aware of.

Diabetes patients are quite annoying versus smokers with cancer or heart disease in that they tend to hang around rather than doing us a favour and dying cheaply.

Diabetes patients tend to do expensive things like go blind or need extremities chopping off (arms and legs).

Grenage

Generali wrote: »

Not that I am aware of.

Diabetes patients are quite annoying versus smokers with cancer or heart disease in that they tend to hang around rather than doing us a favour and dying cheaply.

Diabetes patients tend to do expensive things like go blind or need extremities chopping off (arms and legs).

We could throw a pack of 20 Marlboro in with every can of coke...

Generali

Grenage wrote: »

We could throw a pack of 20 Marlboro in with every can of coke...

That's the sort of thing I like!! Some free thinking.

Feral_Moon

Generali wrote: »

I think you should weigh yourself before your morning cuppa and after you've had a dump.

I tried weighing myself every morning for a couple of months as the first thing I did after rising just as an experiment. The main thing that correlated with my weight? How much booze I had the night before. If I'd had a few beers then I woke up more dehydrated so weighed less!

A big night out on the razz should see you at 24.9!

And there was me thinking the more alcohol I drink, the slimmer I should be :whistle: :rotfl: