Poor jobs market

Sanne

Polarbeary wrote: »

Thank you and congratulations and good luck to you too!

In the current climate I really think it's best to take a decent job and see how it goes, rather than have nothing. TBH - I am still waiting for a couple of other jobs to come back as well with decisions.

I really am not excited about this...but if I don't take it and don't find another job I am even more stuck!

Husband has a great job and he is paying the mortgage, bills, meals out etc but I still have my phone bill to pay, coffees, tube fares etc as I want to be independent. I really want a baby in the next couple of years and I think I need a perm job to stay at in order to get mat benefits and be able to go back part-time after if I choose to.

There is also the option of hubby relocating abroad with work by the end of the year - a lot can change in a few months! Then I could hopefully have a baby abroad and be a housewife (still have to come back to UK eventually and start job hunt all over again!)

Of course, I won't be telling an employer that because it is in no way certain!

You never know what the new job might develop into or lead to either - I hated my last job quite quickly (I think I first mentioned that I was unhappy after just three or four months) but, looking back now, if I hadn't had that job when I applied for my current role I probably wouldn't have got it. I didn't feel I developed a lot (if at all) but the experience I gained was still variable, if only to show me how things shouldn't be done!

And, as you said, you can always keep looking - after all, you've got six months with a very short notice period.

Gavin83

SomeRandomGuy wrote: »

Of course you make an entirely valid point. However for a lot of unemployed people there is so much pressure from the job centre to be seen to be applying for jobs. If you don't apply for enough jobs (however ridiculously unqualified or unsuitable) you get sanctioned and left with no money..... not just for a week but for many, many weeks. I suspect that is where a lot of bad applications come from - well that an applicants who are simply desperate or deluded about their own abilities.

I think it's probably my industry as well. You get the people who built a computer once and seem to believe that qualifies them to do just about anything.

But I agree, the job centre is likely driving a lot of pointless applications.

pickledonionspaceraider

In my area there is no shortage of work and it really is an employees market.

I have never had any time for comments like 'there is no work out there' that just means 'I do not want to do the work available at the moment' for whatever reason. Not every job advertised is going to be your dream job however, sometimes we take what we can get and keep one eye on future jobs coming out

Polarbeary

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

In my area there is no shortage of work and it really is an employees market.

I have never had any time for comments like 'there is no work out there' that just means 'I do not want to do the work available at the moment' for whatever reason. Not every job advertised is going to be your dream job however, sometimes we take what we can get and keep one eye on future jobs coming out

So when numerous recruiters are saying how poor the job market is you don't believe them?

auldblerk

SomeRandomGuy wrote: »

Of course you make an entirely valid point. However for a lot of unemployed people there is so much pressure from the job centre to be seen to be applying for jobs. If you don't apply for enough jobs (however ridiculously unqualified or unsuitable) you get sanctioned and left with no money..... not just for a week but for many, many weeks. I suspect that is where a lot of bad applications come from - well that an applicants who are simply desperate or deluded about their own abilities.

You took the words right out of my keyboard.
Blame the Claimant Commitment for the flood of applications from people who have no qualifications for the jobs they are applying for.

pickledonionspaceraider

Polarbeary wrote: »

So when numerous recruiters are saying how poor the job market is you don't believe them?

As I said, in my area that is not the case - no one is saying that in my area. I have turned down three jobs this year purely because employees literally can pick and choose

makeyourdaddyproud

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

In my area there is no shortage of work and it really is an employees market.

I have never had any time for comments like 'there is no work out there' that just means 'I do not want to do the work available at the moment' for whatever reason. Not every job advertised is going to be your dream job however, sometimes we take what we can get and keep one eye on future jobs coming out

You are generalising a bit; the only reason jobs are plentiful in your area is only because of a demographic reason. Could it be that:-

• The area is expensive and desirable. Meaning that only highly paid people can afford to live there, but none of the local jobs are attractive to the main demographic.
• Underpopulated area. The area does have industry, but there aren't enough people of working age to take those jobs - e.g it's a known retirement zone.
• Overpopulated with dependants/disabilitees/bens claimants. Perhaps the area has a high unemployment rate with a high rate of sickness, benefit funded parenthood and disability thus making it uneconomic to work there?

If it's none of those things I would be interested to know where you are and and why there are so many jobs there in comparison to the rest of the country.

Firetastic

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

You are generalising a bit; the only reason jobs are plentiful in your area is only because of a demographic reason. Could it be that:-

• The area is expensive and desirable. Meaning that only highly paid people can afford to live there, but none of the local jobs are attractive to the main demographic.
• Underpopulated area. The area does have industry, but there aren't enough people of working age to take those jobs - e.g it's a known retirement zone.
• Overpopulated with dependants/disabilitees/bens claimants. Perhaps the area has a high unemployment rate with a high rate of sickness, benefit funded parenthood and disability thus making it uneconomic to work there?

If it's none of those things I would be interested to know where you are and and why there are so many jobs there in comparison to the rest of the country.

Lot of good points there.

DKLS

Firetastic wrote: »

I once went for an interview and 300 people applied for the job. The guy said he was going to interview every one and he would come in on his days off to do so.

Apart from the fact that chap needed some HR training, I doubt there was 300 real applications, when job seekers are measured by how many applications they make its inevitable that numbers are higher.

Its not always the case though, I have a third and final interview tomorrow, I am the only candidate to make it so far out of an initial pool of 10 applicants.

The_Jokecentre_Plus

Polarbeary wrote: »

Just wondering - who else is finding it hard to find a job? There's quite a few PA/secretarial jobs advertised in London. I've had many interviews as I've posted recently but no job.

Had an interesting chat with the lady at an agency I'm dealing with. She said she has people with many years experience on good salaries who have been made redundant and have been job hunting for months - laid off from financial companies. She thinks the job market is in a bad way and the election and referendum is having a huge impact. This is especially the case for finance sector jobs. I've heard at least two other recruiters say the market is especially slow right now.

Is it the stay/leave EU debate? The time of year (end of financial year), uncertainty about the economy or heading into a recession? The US election? Yet official unemployment figures are down - 10 year low at 5.1%!

I would be really interested to know your thoughts. How bad are things outside London?

This is great news for me cos I don't want a job, anyway. :j