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  • VfM4meplse
    VfM4meplse Posts: 34,269 Forumite
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    Either you are badly misunderstanding the broker or your broker is an idiot
    I'll know which tomorrow ;)
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  • brit1234
    brit1234 Posts: 5,385 Forumite
    VfM4meplse wrote: »
    Needs must, I'm afraid. The capital is needed to help me secure a new home, at this point in my life a mortgage is not an option - although it could be in future. LTB doesn't suffer stamp duty as the property doesn't change hands.

    Eta: I'm in a similar situation to this: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-2914608/Are-moving-house-don-t-want-sell-try-let-buy.html . Again, an experienced independent broker is recommended, but I've been stung in the past.

    Wrong, you will have to pay an extra 3% stamp duty on the property to buy which you live in. The legislation is designed to discourage second home ownership to give first time buyers a chance.
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  • amnblog
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    The legislation is designed to generate revenue.
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • VfM4meplse
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    edited 14 March 2016 at 9:45AM
    amnblog wrote: »
    The legislation is designed to generate revenue.
    I take it the advice above is correct? In which case I would have to pay two lots of stamp duty at 3%? Now I'm really confused :o

    Back to the drawing board for me: https://www.gov.uk/stamp-duty-land-tax/print

    Eta: am really p*ssed off now, had been making plans at full pelt all weekend but this is going to cost me a lot more than I had planned for - effectively a whole year's rental income :(. . The mortgage adviser who contacted me was through MoneySuperMarket and I have lost all confidence in both him and them. It's not put me off the purchase though, I sweat blood and vomit to buy my own home and there is no way I am selling it: the 3% is a pill I would have to swallow regardless.
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  • betmunch
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    You pay the extra stamp duty on the one you buy, if this means at the end of the day of the purchase you own 2 or more properties.


    There are a few caveats, but from your posts its doesn't look like you will meet them.


    You do not pay stamp duty on the property the LTB mortgage is secured on as you already own it, however you will pay stamp duty on any additional property you purchase, which will include the surcharge for owning more than 1 property.


    Hope that clarifies your position
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  • Conrad
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    I'm reading between the lines that you situation precludes an ordinary resi mortgage hence why you want a let to buy. So it's straight forward enough as long as you meet criteria.


    I would think this is do-able.


    I am currently just buying a but to let and the 3% SD did not deter me, it's a business cost, and given it's a business, hey ho.


    Income tax is going to be increasing but planning for this in advance should mitigate the additional burden.


    All the best OP
  • VfM4meplse
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    Thanks for the PM, Conrad. It'll be a cold day in hell before the likes of Gideon ruin my plans :D
    betmunch wrote: »
    You do not pay stamp duty on the property the LTB mortgage is secured on as you already own it, however you will pay stamp duty on any additional property you purchase, which will include the surcharge for owning more than 1 property.


    Hope that clarifies your position
    Perfectly. This was the penny that dropped on me from a great height this morning :o

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    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

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  • _CC_
    _CC_ Posts: 362 Forumite
    Obviously you were always going to be paying stamp duty on your next purchase, just going down the LTB route means you'll be paying an additional 3% stamp duty.

    E.g. for a £200k house you'll have to pay an additional £6,000. In other words, your stamp duty bill will be going from £1,500 to £7,500 on a £200k property due to the new legislation.

    If you're a higher rate tax payer you'll also want to look into the new changes regarding offsetting mortgage interest as a business expense.
  • AnotherJoe
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    VfM4meplse wrote: »
    I'll know which tomorrow ;)

    So, broker was an idiot then ? :D
  • VfM4meplse
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    edited 15 March 2016 at 2:29AM
    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    So, broker was an idiot then ? :D
    Not just the broker I'm afraid. It seems a number in the real estate business are still getting their heads around the implications of Gideon's Law :o

    Checking in once more in my state of highly p*ss-offedness. I do now realise why the so-called broker's rates were so low and his voice hadn't broken, obviously an amateur (she says, spitting out sour grapes). Now I need to find some reliable advice on how to pick a mortgage adviser :o
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

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