Inaccurate Job Offer Letter

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

What? I think you need to re-read what you said, then rinse repeat.

All the perm contracts in the past i've had stated the hours as a fact.

The OP was expecting a contract stating the previously agreed hours. It's not a guideline! Employment contracts give you parameters with which you work under but are never just guidelines.

I do accept that the nature of the job can mean working outside those parameters occasionally as the business dictates, but that is not the same as "bunging" in a few more hours as a contingency.

So you work in software dev and you come in at 9, take a full hour for lunch, and leave at 5:30 except in emergencies? Consistently?

makeyourdaddyproud

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

So you work in software dev and you come in at 9, take a full hour for lunch, and leave at 5:30 except in emergencies? Consistently?

Yes, nearly all the time unless on a critical project. Then I could reasonably expect later working. Just like I can sometimes leave earlier or come in later.

I don't think any sensible employer should split hairs if you decide to leave on time or decline arriving any earlier than normal.

Why would anyone stay later than was necessary for the sake of it?

Scorpio33

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

Yes, nearly all the time unless on a critical project. Then I could reasonably expect later working. Just like I can sometimes leave earlier or come in later.

I don't think any sensible employer should split hairs if you decide to leave on time or decline arriving any earlier than normal.

Why would anyone stay later than was necessary for the sake of it?

Agreed, every employment should be like this.


If there was an expectation that anything was different, this should be stated in the offer letter and the contract. If nothing is stated, then the assumption should always be that it is not expected.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

Yes, nearly all the time unless on a critical project. Then I could reasonably expect later working. Just like I can sometimes leave earlier or come in later.

I don't think any sensible employer should split hairs if you decide to leave on time or decline arriving any earlier than normal.

Why would anyone stay later than was necessary for the sake of it?

By half an hour a day??? Including not taking a full hour for lunch????

I have no idea where you work but I have 25 years experience in the industry and this is not a picture I recognise.

Flexibility, yes. Lots of places are very flexible about start and finish times, certainly lunch break times. But the idea that doing an extra half hour a day by not taking your full lunch break and not running straight out the door at 5:30 (or 5:00, or whenever) is unusual is just wrong.

Don't you even finish off whatever you are in the middle of? I am often delayed half an hour just talking something through with someone without even realising it.

SomeRandomGuy

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

Why assume it is? He could be earning 100K a year as a project manager in finance. It's utterly dependent on the type of job, which he hasn't told us.

I didn't assume anything, I said 'if', and as far as I can see nobody else implied it was a min wage job either.

My point was if you are on a low salary you are probably going to be more upset about being told to work 10 extra unpaid hours a month than if you are on 100k a year job where going the extra mile is probably what got you the job in the first place.

You seem to be trying to justify the employer's actions by saying well nobody takes and hour for lunch and everyone works more than contracted hours anyway (or words to that effect).

OP is over a barrel now but I see his point - he agreed to supply X hours of labour or Y reward, now they have moved the goal posts and are expecting more for less as matter of course. This different from being expected to work late occasionally for a vital deadline. My concern would be if this employer is willing to pull this kind of stunt what else could go on down the line?

RichieRooo

It's certainly frustrated me and even more so they're not prepared to do anything about it.

It's also worth noting that this is my 5th day and my so called boss has spoken to me only once since I walked through the door for about 10 minutes. I've had absolutely no help or guidance, just thrown in with a load of tasks in a system which I don't understand as no one has helped me or shown me what and how it is used.

I can't wait to get out which is shocking given it's only day 5!

makeyourdaddyproud

RichieRooo wrote: »

It's certainly frustrated me and even more so they're not prepared to do anything about it.

It's also worth noting that this is my 5th day and my so called boss has spoken to me only once since I walked through the door for about 10 minutes. I've had absolutely no help or guidance, just thrown in with a load of tasks in a system which I don't understand as no one has helped me or shown me what and how it is used.

I can't wait to get out which is shocking given it's only day 5!

So you have accepted the terms then?

Maybe this work just isn't for you; kudos on your interview skills in getting the job in the first place given the level of competition in the field, or rather the 20 or so candidates before that spotted the subterfuge and declined the offer...

tomtontom

anuraggupta wrote: »

I thnik Richie Roo is right i totally agree with this answer

I think you're a spammer.

xapprenticex

maybe 37.5 excluding breaks?

If it was actually 37.5 maybe youd only get paid for 35 hours when oyou take breaks off?

anuraggupta wrote: »

I thnik Richie Roo is right i totally agree with this answer

Great, I'll let the others know.