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Taylors "Rich" Italian Ground Coffee

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LadyDee
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I've never been a coffee drinker - tea's my tipple, but just recently having enjoyed several cups of coffee away from home I decided that I was rather enjoying coffee for a change.

Bought the necessary cafetiere etc. and looked in Waitrose for some decent coffee. Half-price offer made this look tempting and, as you do, bought 2:(

Rich it isn't, Italian it isn't! It's weak and pretty tasteless even to my untrained palette, and it's apparently made from beans grown in Brazil, Africa and Central America. If ever there was false advertising this has got to be it.

Just moaning 'cos I now have an unopened packet of the stuff, especially as I thought I was getting a bargain:mad:

Can anybody recommend a really, really, really strong coffee that I could perhaps mix this with to give it a bit of flavour? Can you do that with coffee?
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  • ampersand
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    LadyDee -
    I was about to post a coffee ? and spotted yours.
    My only contribution is to strongly advise you to explain/complain[non-rant]>w8r0s [aka the Emporium :-)]as you have here.
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    &'s main Branch takes such commentary seriously.

    I,too, saw the half-price ofers, but they were still all dearer than last time round - usually qtrly or thereabouts - and I'm trying to find a decent replacement for Millicano old-style, before this outrage/change:
    http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/coffee-drinkers-angry-over-kenco-millicano-production-changes/354521.article

    Please update with The Emp's response.
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  • I've tried practically every coffee available from the supermarket and the only one I always repurchase is the Illy coffee, which comes in a tin. Unfortunately, the ground coffee isn't suitable for cafetieres, only coffee machines.


    If coffee is something you are planning to continue with, I'd really recommend buying a grinder and buying beans - freshly ground coffee far exceeds any pre-ground coffee you an buy :)
  • greyfox
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    Lady Dee,

    To be honest, you need to use a lot of ground coffee in a cafetiere to get a really strong coffee. Perhaps try again using more & leaving it for longer before depressing the plunger?

    BTW "Italian" isn't a reference to where the beans come from (coffee doesn't grow in Italy) but the type of roast they're given.

    Can't come up with a suggestion for a stronger blend as we buy our coffee in bulk when we go to France - which would be a long way for you to go for a "top-up"! The Taylors one you have is marked as strength 4 so look for one with a higher number.
  • LadyDee
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    greyfox wrote: »
    Lady Dee,

    To be honest, you need to use a lot of ground coffee in a cafetiere to get a really strong coffee. Perhaps try again using more & leaving it for longer before depressing the plunger?

    BTW "Italian" isn't a reference to where the beans come from (coffee doesn't grow in Italy) but the type of roast they're given.

    Can't come up with a suggestion for a stronger blend as we buy our coffee in bulk when we go to France - which would be a long way for you to go for a "top-up"! The Taylors one you have is marked as strength 4 so look for one with a higher number.

    I take your point regarding "Italian" but on the front of the bag it says "Italian", hidden away on the back in small letters it gives the countries of origin then "takes its cue from Italian...". To my mind it should say something along the lines of "Italian Style". Anyway, I'll look into getting a small grinder and see how I get on with beans. You'll have to give me some tips on what sort to try:)
    Now, I'm a weak black tea drinker, so for me to find the coffee weak will tell you something. Just has no taste, even with a really heaped coffee measure. I leave it a good five minutes to 'cook'!

    I'll try the Illy as recommend by the previous poster. Thing is, this little exercise could cost me a fortune until I find the 'right' one!
  • greyfox
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    I'd use twice that amount if I was using a cafetiere!

    If you're going to try the Illy, make sure you get their "Dark Roast" one.
  • ~~Diane~~
    ~~Diane~~ Posts: 770 Forumite
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    LadyDee wrote: »
    I've never been a coffee drinker - tea's my tipple, but just recently having enjoyed several cups of coffee away from home I decided that I was rather enjoying coffee for a change.

    Bought the necessary cafetiere etc. and looked in Waitrose for some decent coffee. Half-price offer made this look tempting and, as you do, bought 2:(

    Rich it isn't, Italian it isn't! It's weak and pretty tasteless even to my untrained palette, and it's apparently made from beans grown in Brazil, Africa and Central America. If ever there was false advertising this has got to be it.

    Just moaning 'cos I now have an unopened packet of the stuff, especially as I thought I was getting a bargain:mad:

    Can anybody recommend a really, really, really strong coffee that I could perhaps mix this with to give it a bit of flavour? Can you do that with coffee?


    I've been using the said coffee and find I need 2 heap tablespoons for a decent mug size drink. Another brand I used buy and like is Douwe Egberts for cafetiere use (Green bag)
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  • jon81uk
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    Italian roast is a type of coffee, not the location its grown. Coffee doesn't grow in Italy, the climate is wrong.

    Make sure you are using one full scoop (rounded tablespoon) per 125ml cup (not mug), most cafetieres will need at least four scoops, some need eight. Even the tiny ones need two good scoops.
    Not using enough coffee is most likely to be the problem, a darker roast is more likely to just taste more bitter.

    Instructions for Bodum cafetieres are here
  • LadyDee
    LadyDee Posts: 4,293 Forumite
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    Thanks everybody, will bear in mind all your comments and see how I get on.
  • bellajack
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    Agree - you need more coffee in the cafetière. I use 5 in an 8 cup but as mine is very old, they mean 8 espresso type cups! Next time there is an offer, try Taylor's 'Hot Java Lava' it really has some taste.
    Never leave coffee exposed to the air, keep in an air tight container, OR, keep in pack and put in freezer. It doesn't freeze but will keep fresh.
  • After a lot of trial and error and gallons of insipid coffee, I've settled on the co op, fair trade after dinner coffee, marked 5. At the moment it's on offer at £1.99 a bag (usually £2.49). One scoop per mug of coffee is plenty and it's lovely and rich :)
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