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Employer not paying my tax possibly not my NI either

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  • pelirocco
    pelirocco Posts: 8,275 Forumite
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    atush wrote: »
    With the possible exception that your tax money that has been deducted needs to be paid to HMRC. And you are legally liable to pay tax.

    No the employer is the one who is legally liable not the employee
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  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    Yes, but if they go down with your cash, HMRC is still going to want to be paid?
  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    and there is a legal requirement to supply an employee with details of the payment made (a "payslip") with certain information on it (tax, NI etc).

    It only needs to be supplied once if the payments stay the same (no overtime etc).

    If I was the OP I would be seriously concerned and be actively looking for employment elsewhere!
  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    HMRC is still going to want to be paid?
    ermm - no.

    If the employer has deducted the money correctly from the employees it is the employer who owes the HMRC, not the employee. For a normal employed person (not contractor or agency workers) it is the legal duty of the employer to withhold the money from the employees. There is no direct connection between the employee and HMRC.
  • Yes, but if they go down with your cash, HMRC is still going to want to be paid?

    They still can't come after the employee for it, as far as I can tell. They could apply against the company winding up, or attach the debt to the directors via a Personal Liability Notice (if it was deemed to be fraud or serious neglect). But in any case it's the employer's debt and can't be passed on to the employee.
    I am a Technical Analyst at a third-party pension administration company. My job is to interpret rules and legislation and provide technical guidance, but I am not a lawyer or a qualified advisor of any kind and anything I say on these boards is my opinion only.
  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    r. They should surely have info to end of December due to RTI reporting
    Not if the employer isn't doing RTI?

    If they were using proper software to support RTI or using a bureau service I would have that that would produce payslips which could be given to the employees.

    Is RTI compulsory for all employees these days, irrespective of size?
  • hjd
    hjd Posts: 1,224 Forumite
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    All employers are required to use RTI.
    Agreed, if no payslips then chances are they are fiddling. Get on to HMRC asap, as others have said. Then look around for another job..
  • I haven't had a wage slip since August. I get paid weekly and as my wage stays the same I've never bothered opening them even when we were getting them, just got stuffed in my draw. No one has really been too fussed, the ones that were have given up wondering when we were going to get them.

    This always amazes me, people who 'don't bother' to read things that may be important!

    Excuse, it's always the same.

    Cheers fj
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