Tax man is coming

catoutthebag

Ssshh :shhh:

In 1hr and 35 min he'll be coming knock knock :wall:

Pay day for him:santa2:

C_Mababejive

Its amazing how willingly people accept their lot

catoutthebag

:think: what do you mean

C_Mababejive

catoutthebag wrote: »

:think: what do you mean

I mean the wider issue of taxation.

Now i accept that in an organised society, we need to raise central funds to run essential services and pay for infrastructure but the state has become way to intrusive.

Once i have paid income tax, what business is it of the state what i ten choose to do with my money?

If i choose to give some to someone else, what has it to do with them?

If i invest it and make a profit,what has it to do with them?


Indeed, what right has the state to tax an individual? If for example, someone is born within the boundaries of the land lately known as the British Isles, then why cant that person live on the land without let or hindrance without being taxed in some way or another?

Surely the truth is that we are merely chattels of the state.

Wayne_O_Mac

Ooh, a Freeman on the Land. Threads with these morons are always entertaining.

dori2o

C_Mababejive wrote: »

I mean the wider issue of taxation.

Now i accept that in an organised society, we need to raise central funds to run essential services and pay for infrastructure but the state has become way to intrusive.

Once i have paid income tax, what business is it of the state what i ten choose to do with my money?
They don't care.When has the state ever asked you to declare what you do with your money,except forin cases where you have used the money to make a profit?
If i choose to give some to someone else, what has it to do with them? Nothing, unless you die within7 years of giving them the gift and your estate qualifies for Inheretance tax.

If i invest it and make a profit,what has it to do with them?
Nothing, apart fromneeding to know what the profit was and asking you to pay the necessary tax due on that investment,unless the vehicle you have invested in hold a Nil tax status in which case the state don't care one jot.

Indeed, what right has the state to tax an individual?
It's called Statute. Governments that you, I and all other british people elect to run the country on our behalf. If you don't vote then thats your own tough luck. No vote No complaint is the way I see it. The elected Government then sets the rules by way of laws/statutes/legislation to ensure that everyoneplays by the samerules (to an extent).
If for example, someone is born within the boundaries of the land lately known as the British Isles, then why cant that person live on the land without let or hindrance without being taxed in some way or another?

Surely the truth is that we are merely chattels of the state.

If you don't like it then move elsewhere where there may be no income tax foryou to pay.

However,I wouldn't then expect to be able to access free healthcare, be given financial assistance should you fall on hard times, I'd also most likley never go out of the house as there would be no law and order and it'd be a free for all with no protection for people from police forces etc.

Also, just bear in mind,that whilst there are several tax havens where you don't pay any form of income tax,there are still taxes to pay in other ways.

If you get chance watch 'Britains Trillion pound Island on BBC iPlayer.It's all about Cayman and it's tax haven status.

Whilst the residents don't pay income tax, they do pay sales tax which makes provisions such as food very expensive.

Birdseye fish fingers pack of 10 in the UK cost on average £1.65/£2ish. In Cayman they cost £8.50 because of the import tax,and you have no option but to buy food as the island cannot provide sufficient food to feed the whole population.

If that is the typeof system you'd like to see here in the UK,then you'reeven more daft than your Freeman of the Land quotes you've already made.

C_Mababejive

It was Wayne O Mac who mentioned FMOTL,,not I.

dori2o

C_Mababejive wrote: »

It was Wayne O Mac who mentioned FMOTL,,not I.

Though you didn't mention it specifically the rhetoric from your post is clear.

Still, the opinions in my post stand.

You don't like the laws/rules/regulations etc that are there in order to protect and maintain a civilised society (where healthcare, welfare, and law and order are free at the point of need) then the answer is simple, move somewhere else where the laws etc are more agreeable to you.

Just remember though, the grass is not always greener.

C_Mababejive

dori2o wrote: »

Though you didn't mention it specifically the rhetoric from your post is clear.

Still, the opinions in my post stand.

You don't like the laws/rules/regulations etc that are there in order to protect and maintain a civilised society (where healthcare, welfare, and law and order are free at the point of need) then the answer is simple, move somewhere else where the laws etc are more agreeable to you.

Just remember though, the grass is not always greener.

I disagree that my views equate to FMOTL philosophy. I have no links with any FMOTL group.

My occupation of this land is by birthright and not by way of agreement with law and/or payment of taxes.

Wayne_O_Mac

C_Mababejive wrote: »

My occupation of this land is by birthright and not by way of agreement with law and/or payment of taxes.

You need to agree to a law to be governed by it.

of course, if you're happy for someone who disagrees with the law on theft to come round and help themselves to your stuff....

C_Mababejive

Wayne_O_Mac wrote: »

You need to agree to a law to be governed by it.

of course, if you're happy for someone who disagrees with the law on theft to come round and help themselves to your stuff....

I am not concerned with criminal matters. I merely state that one should be able to exist and live in this country by virtue of birthright. My right to inhabit this land is as valid as any other inhabitant who was born here. I promise i shall not harm anyone for that is not the kind of thing i do.