Parking Control Management issued ticket WITH valid ticket on dashboard!!

Andrew_Ryan

Hi,

My partner was visiting me and parked in the visitor bay in the complex. She displayed a valid PCM parking visitor permit allowing her 24hours stay. ( the permit was filled in correctly) Upon arrival back to the car (7 hours before expiry) a ticket was displayed stating 'Parked without clearly displaying a valid PCM Uk Ltd permit' now the ticket was on the dashboard and was clearly visible upon arrival back. 24hours has passed and the photographic evidence has not been uploaded. ( the ticket stated that the evidence would be uploaded within 24hrs)

If for some reason, fog on the windscreen or the bottom of the ticket was not clear like the 'year' as it's one of these scratch card ones. What you think of the appeal grounds on this?

Thanks

Andrew

Quentin

Check out the newbies faq thread at the top of the forum for advice on how and when to appeal

Andrew_Ryan

I've had a read through already. Obviously they will refuse the appeal but Parking control Management are in the IPC, yet I see that they are reported biased. So, the next step after that is just go to the court would I be right?

Quentin

Well.... that is up to them. They can choose to take it to court! They may not (and presumably only will do so when they are confident of a win).


They are likely to try sending lots of threatening letters to see if you cave in without spending money on a court claim.


They have 6 years to take court action

Coupon-mad

Andrew_Ryan wrote: »

I've had a read through already. Obviously they will refuse the appeal but Parking control Management are in the IPC, yet I see that they are reported biased. So, the next step after that is just go to the court would I be right?

No the next step after ONE first appeal to make it clear you are not ignoring them (but are getting forum advice) is you THEN ignore them. PCM occasionally try a small claim but mostly it would be a case of ignoring the debt collector letters shown in post #4 of the NEWBIES thread.

You do NOT ignore court papers of course (or a Letter before Claim from Gladstones solicitors) but we are saying that's unlikely.

hoohoo

Cant see a court would rule for them if the ticket was visible. Lets wait and see the evidence.

Andrew_Ryan

So a update here.

When I bought the booklet of tickets I was told over the phone the tickets were valid for 24hrs ( calls are recorded they say) . We put a ticket on the car and then got a ticket. Upon looking in to it the sign in small writing it states " Parking is valid for only 4 hours between 8am and 8pm. After 8pm another ticket is needed which is valid for 12 hours" We parked at 5pm and got a ticket at 8.30pm as we should have put another ticket on at 8pm. We thought as were told they were 24hr tickets. We never fully checked the sign on the space ( my bad) so what do you think is my stance on this?

The_Deep

The problem they have with court is that they will have to convince a judge that you are a liar. All you have to do is convince the judge that they are lying bar stewards.

Andrew_Ryan

I will appeal and ask for the call recording to be sent to me. ( AM GUESSING THEY WON'T DO THAT) I am guessing a contract was formed on the call with the staff member and therefore a sign cannot alter the contract formed over the phone?

They have 8 signs up and 3 of them are different terms depending where you are parked in the complex. Basically they just are looking for ways to catch you out.

bod1467

Send them a Subject Access Request for a copy of all data they hold on you, including copies of recordings? Maximum they can charge is £10 for this.

Not sure if a SAR is relevant for a limited company.