Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair

POPPYOSCAR

hyubh wrote: »

That's nothing. Justice for Chunky (a far better cause IMO) is currently on 389,664:

https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-justice-for-chunky?source_location=petition_footer&algorithm=curated_trending&grid_position=6

Signed that one the day it came out.

OldBeanz

Another vote for Chunky.

Pollycat

Goldiegirl wrote: »

If the petition had centred on the 2011 changes, I think only a handful of people would have signed it - people like many on this thread ( and others like it) who take a measured and considered view after careful assessment.

Many of the people who have signed the petition in it's current format, have done so because they think there's a chance they'll get 'compo'. If the petition was solely about 2011, there probably wouldn't be a whiff of compensation at all, and most of them wouldn't be interested and wouldn't have bothered to sign the petition

I signed the petition after reading the original thread.

I thought it was poorly-worded and disagreed with the inclusion of the 1995 changes (which I'd been aware of) but agreed about the 2011 changes so signed it.

I didn't sign it because of any slight chance of 'compo'.
I signed it because for many years I'd been aware that, as a result of the 1995 changes, I'd get my pension at age 63 years 6 months i.e April 2017 (and was OK with that because I do agree with equalisation) but was told at very short notice that my SPA date was being put back to 64 years 9 months July 2018).

I later - through the other thread - became aware that what WASPI had put in the petition seemed to be at odds with what was being said on their FB page.

BobQ wrote: »

The word retrospectively keeps being used by the OP, yet I fail to see how these changes are retrospective. Providing less notice of a change is not a retrospective change. If those affected were losing pension I could understand their objections, but they are effectively being given more time to earn more pension.

As you can see from my post above, I am actually losing 15 months of state pension.
I also have no chance of 'earning more pension' as I retired before the government put back my SPA.

Why do we have to have another thread on this when it's been discussed at length (21 pages long!) here?:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5378979

The OP of this thread appears clueless about the issue.

chucknorris

hyubh wrote: »

That's nothing. Justice for Chunky (a far better cause IMO) is currently on 389,664:

https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-justice-for-chunky?source_location=petition_footer&algorithm=curated_trending&grid_position=6

Signed this moments ago, currently on 389,741.

Pollycat

hyubh wrote: »

That's nothing. Justice for Chunky (a far better cause IMO) is currently on 389,664:

https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-justice-for-chunky?source_location=petition_footer&algorithm=curated_trending&grid_position=6

I'd not seen this petition but just signed it.

May be worth posting this on the Pet board, I don't think I've seen anything about it on there and I'm sure it will get more signatures.

chucknorris

Pollycat wrote: »

I'd not seen this petition but just signed it.

May be worth posting this on the Pet board, I don't think I've seen anything about it on there and I'm sure it will get more signatures.

I've just done that.

agent69

Always looked at this as a typical example of a group in society who think they can opt in and out of equality as and when it suits them.

I hear lots of women complaining about the gender pay gap but none complaining about the gender retirement gap. Can't have it both ways.

Pollycat

agent69 wrote: »

Always looked at this as a typical example of a group in society who think they can opt in and out of equality as and when it suits them.

I hear lots of women complaining about the gender pay gap but none complaining about the gender retirement gap. Can't have it both ways.

I am not part of any group and I certainly don't think I can opt in and out of equality when it suits me - and I wouldn't want to.

Absolutely fine with the move to equalise the SPA for male and female.

What I'm not fine with is being led to believe that my SPA is x date for well over 15 years and then being told - less than 6 years before that x date that they've changed it again to be x date + 15 months.

POPPYOSCAR

agent69 wrote: »

Always looked at this as a typical example of a group in society who think they can opt in and out of equality as and when it suits them.

I hear lots of women complaining about the gender pay gap but none complaining about the gender retirement gap. Can't have it both ways.

I have no problem with the retirement age being the same for women as it is for men.


However, perhaps if women did have true equality with men more women would feel the same.


I do have a problem with the retirement age being made later and later. Expecting people to continue to work at an elderly age is not right IMO. It also takes work away from the young.

agent69

Pollycat wrote: »

I am not part of any group and I certainly don't think I can opt in and out of equality when it suits me - and I wouldn't want to.

Absolutely fine with the move to equalise the SPA for male and female.

What I'm not fine with is being led to believe that my SPA is x date for well over 15 years and then being told - less than 6 years before that x date that they've changed it again to be x date + 15 months.

I'm curious what you mean by 'led to believe'?

Either way I don't see that having 5 years notice that you need to work for another 15 months should ruin your life. I assume the simple answer is to work a bit longer?

Irked yes, but still in a better position than a man of equal age.