Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair

LHW99

I thought there already was provision for making proper notice for future changes.
Anyone starting a petition asking Parliament NOT to debate the WASPE one?

zagfles

OldBeanz wrote: »

Interesting that the distribution of signatures shows the largest support in Scotland where the parliament has the fiscal authority to deliver the WASPI demands and the governing and largest party has been the most vocal in its support for its implementation.

Exactly - the SNP could raise taxes in Scotland and use it to deliver exactly what WASPE want there. But they don't want to actually deliver, they just want to play politics and convince the gullible they're standing up for something by continually shouting about it rather than use their power to actually do something.

badmemory

LHW99 wrote: »

I thought there already was provision for making proper notice for future changes.
Anyone starting a petition asking Parliament NOT to debate the WASPE one?

We can wish! Anyone would think there weren't any important matters for them to deal with.

unforeseen

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Thank you for posting the link.

Have signed it for them.

Bit late. It was debated in December and rejected

Silvertabby

The official response makes interesting reading. Seems the restoration of the State pension age to 60 for 1950s women (aka a non means tested bridging pension) would cost over £70bn. As, under equality legislation, this would also have to apply to 1950s men the final bill would be in excess of £150bn. Where would that be taken from? The NHS?

And then there would be the screams from those - both men and women - born on or after 1 January 1960 who would have to wait another 6 years for their pensions.....

Can we now finally draw the line under this crazyness?

Spoken as a 1950s woman who knew from 1995 that she wouldn't get her State pension at 60.

Mnd

That's dashed my hopes of a quick couple of grand then!
Cheers:beer:

Liffy99

Not so worried about the actual SPA but the cliff edge calculation that so disadvantaged some compared to others. For example two women might have been born in May or June 1953. The latter has had to wait another year nearly to receive her SP than the former for a few weeks difference in birth date.

dunstonh

Liffy99 wrote: »

Not so worried about the actual SPA but the cliff edge calculation that so disadvantaged some compared to others. For example two women might have been born in May or June 1953. The latter has had to wait another year nearly to receive her SP than the former for a few weeks difference in birth date.

It has been said many times on here that most people do have concerns over the small group of women who had their age accelerated by the 2011 changes at very short notice. It WASPI have been less nimby and greedy and focused on the genuine cases of unfairness, then they may very well have got a better deal.

Campaigning for something that would be illegal (discrimination) and highly unpopular with everyone else (if they got their pension reduced despite over 20 years notice, why should everyone else get theirs increased with less than 20 years notice) as well as damned expensive and unaffordable is never going to succeed.

Malthusian

Liffy99 wrote: »

Not so worried about the actual SPA but the cliff edge calculation that so disadvantaged some compared to others. For example two women might have been born in May or June 1953. The latter has had to wait another year nearly to receive her SP than the former for a few weeks difference in birth date.

No they haven't. A woman born on 1 May 1953 reaches SPA at 63 years and 2 months. A woman born on 30 June reaches SPA at 63 years and 8 months. Half a year is significant, but not nearly a year. You shouldn't believe everything you read on the WASPI Facebook page.

The cliff edge is in WASPI's demand for a woman born 31 December 1959 to have a State Pension Age of 60 and a woman born 1 January 1960 to have a State Pension Age of 66. A 6 year cliff edge for a one day difference in age.

Silvertabby

Malthusian wrote: »

No they haven't. A woman born on 1 May 1953 reaches SPA at 63 years and 2 months. A woman born on 30 June reaches SPA at 63 years and 8 months. Half a year is significant, but not nearly a year. You shouldn't believe everything you read on the WASPI Facebook page.

The cliff edge is in WASPI's demand for a woman born 31 December 1959 to have a State Pension Age of 60 and a woman born 1 January 1960 to have a State Pension Age of 66. A 6 year cliff edge for a one day difference in age.

The difference is actually only 4 months - you've counted the age difference as well.