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Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair
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KimC
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It is unfair how a women aged 61 has to wait until 65 yet a women who turned 62 in October 2015 gets her statepension. How is that fair?
Search womans pension rise unfair on this page and click on the link and sign the petition for it debated in the House of Parliment.
Search womans pension rise unfair on this page and click on the link and sign the petition for it debated in the House of Parliment.
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Dont forget to spread the word to friends and family as they need 100,000 signitures for it to come to a debate. This page wont let me upload the link but the link is on this webpage when you search for it.0
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See the previous, very long thread on the topic - the majority of people on this board do not, in fact, agree with you.
I'm not sure that is correct. How can you ascertain that?
I'm not sure what the numbers of people on these boards are, however, there was a surge in the petition votes after MSE and Martin gave their support to the cause.
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/family/2015/12/mps-to-debate-womens-state-pension-changes-as-79000-sign-petition?_ga=1.132075082.434486696.1436005824
I understand there are over one million subscribers on this board. The thread you refer to suggest the majority of 'posters' on that thread does not agree. However, as it often the case in such situations, there may be a silent majority.
See my signature - if you or any others happen to agree that the 2011 changes were unfair to some women then you can let your MP know.0 -
I'm not sure that is correct. How can you ascertain that?
I'm not sure what the numbers of people on these boards are, however, there was a surge in the petition votes after MSE and Martin gave their support to the cause.
I understand there are over one million subscribers on this board. The thread you refer to suggest the majority of 'posters' on that thread does not agree. However, as it often the case in such situations, there may be a silent majority.
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For the OP ,the 21 page thread is here .Well worth having a cup of tea and reading through it .
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5378979
For Saver861,the OP is complaining that transitioning women to equality to men at state pension age 65 or 66 creates inequality between women of different ages.How could it not not be so ? Either the change is phased,or you fall off a a cliff if you are born e.g. 1.1 1960 rather than 31.12.59.( other alternatives welcome !)
I agree with hybh that that the consensus on the thread ( men and women) was to focus on the 12 /18 month extension without 10 year notice in the 2011 act
I do not need your help to contact my MP but this will be be my input to her,after the seasonal break) when the subject comes up for debate
Snowman's well thought out view is the one I would ask her to focus on
"I would certainly support a revised timescale that limited the increases in SPA for females under the 2011 Act to 12 months, with male SPA set equal to female SPA also (but perhaps only at the point revised female SPA reaches 65 or else you end up with some males with an SPA less than 65 which feels wrong).
So that would affect women born between 6/10/53 and 5/4/55 and males born from 6/4/54 to 5/4/55.
Women born between 6/12/53 and 5/10/54 would see a reduction in SPA of 6 months (as their original 2011 increase was 18 months), and other women born in the range 6/10/53 to 5/12/53 and 6/10/54 to 5/4/55 would see a reduction of something under 6 months.
Men born between 6/4/54 and 5/10/54 would see a reduction in SPA of 6 months and those born between 6/10/54 and 5/4/55 would see a reduction of less than 6 months.
The only thing wrong with this from a practical viewpoint (if you ignore cost and inter-generational unfairness) is that it would be legislating for increased male inequality for males born between 6/10/53 and 5/4/54.
What will you be saying to your MP ?"0 -
Signed.
Over 96,000 signatures so should soon reach the 100,000
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/1107760 -
I think equalizing the ages and raising it is necessary and won't be signing. Yes there are women who loose out more than others but there has to be a cut off somewhere.Lost my soulmate so life is empty.
I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
Diana Gabaldon, Outlander0 -
POPPYOSCAR wrote: »Signed.
Over 96,000 signatures so should soon reach the 100,000
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/110776
Why ?
Do you support the petition or the WASPI Facebook campaign ?What do you consider to be the aim of the petition ?
Not getting at you at all, but how would you aim to equalise retirement ages?
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I agree with hybh that that the consensus on the thread ( men and women) was to focus on the 12 /18 month extension without 10 year notice in the 2011 act
I do not need your help to contact my MP but this will be be my input to her,after the seasonal break) when the subject comes up for debate
Excellent!!!
What will you be saying to your MP ?"
My message was something very similar to what yours will be it would seem - and as per my signature message!!!! My MP already knows my position - the nice man wrote back to me on lovely yellow House of Commons paper telling me he agreed with me! Wise man! He also told me he would be writing to Baroness Altmann, Minister of State for Pensions on my behalf. When he receives a reply from said Baroness, he will contact me again.
Should you still be displaying continued curiosity of what said Baroness responded to said MP, I'd be more than happy to enlighten you further! That said, I would be much happier if the Baroness was busy working on revising the 2011 arrangements rather than spending her time writing letters to me.
For the record, my view is, as a minimum, there should a maximum twelve months wait for all those impacted. However, in addition, the Pension Review rule is that anyone having their spa changed should have a minimum of ten years notice. It seems only fair that those who have had less than ten years have those changes removed.
If so, some of those with a current eighteen months extension might in fact, have the extension removed totally if they have not had ten years notice.0 -
I will be urging my MP to support the status quo, and continue the ceaseless and rapid advancement of equality.
Been saying to wimmin 'be careful what you wish for' for years and years - but they still want it all ways...The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....0
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