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  • vivatifosi
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    michaels wrote: »
    I am so out of date, I thought National was 200k depending on who you ask.

    Logically it should be in that ballpark, which is why when I heard a much higher number it made me go:eek:.
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  • Generali
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    London price not UK.
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    edited 27 December 2015 at 1:25PM
    michaels wrote: »
    I am so out of date, I thought National was 200k depending on who you ask.
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Logically it should be in that ballpark, which is why when I heard a much higher number it made me go:eek:.

    Again I suspect we're all confusing different indices and methodology.

    From memory the latest ONS shows average national house prices are around 300K and London is around 530K.

    But ONS use an actual (mean) average rather than the 'typical' house price achieved through the hedonic regression models of Halifax and Nationwide.

    Nationwide is around 195K for a 'typical' house and Halifax is around 205K for a 'typical' house nationally. Both indices assume a typical house to be a 3 bedroom with broadly similar characteristics.... And that would be around 400K in London.

    To answer the OP I've no idea which figure the GLA would have quoted, but going to guess it was a scary headline figure designed to achieve maximum interest rather than a detailed explanation of the somewhat more nuanced reality.
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  • Generali
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    Again I suspect we're all confusing different indices and methodology.

    From memory the latest ONS shows average national house prices are around 300K and London is around 530K.

    But ONS use an actual (mean) average rather than the 'typical' house price achieved through the hedonic regression models of Halifax and Nationwide.

    Nationwide is around 195K for a 'typical' house and Halifax is around 205K for a 'typical' house nationally. Both indices assume a typical house to be a 3 bedroom with broadly similar characteristics.... And that would be around 400K in London.

    To answer the OP I've no idea which figure the GLA would have quoted, but going to guess it was a scary headline figure designed to achieve maximum interest rather than a detailed explanation of the somewhat more nuanced reality.

    Of course I used the figure that will help make my point! Crivens, why would it be up for discussion? **thumps oak table with fist and makes steely glaze**

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  • Generali wrote: »
    Of course I used the figure that will help make my point! Crivens, why would it be up for discussion? **thumps oak table with fist and makes steely glaze**

    Ah... Well in that case I'm going to guess it was Rightmove's asking price index for Greater London which is 616K.:D
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  • Generali
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    Ah... Well in that case I'm going to guess it was Rightmove's asking price index for Greater London which is 616K.:D

    Haha.

    Actually I'm using the GLA's figure which is £513,000, up 7%. Private rents (according to the ONS) were up 4.1% for the year in London vs a CPI figure of -0.1% for the same period.

    http://data.london.gov.uk/housingmarket/
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