Letter From HMRC Re: Ebay Account

Flyonthewall

Stuck_1 wrote: »

if i was a scammer id be targeting very small business sellers on ebay ect sending similar letters, as if you can get them to reply to a similar letter via e-mail you'd have them hook line & sinker.
im amazed HMRC have gone down this road, surly at first contact it should be phone or write? simple as that anything else sounds dodgy in my opinion, why havent HMRC realised this as their the one that have been so cautious of contacting by email in the past

Good thing you're not a scammer them, you'd needlessly spend a lot of money.

They're still the options, except you can write an email instead of a letter.

Stuck_1 wrote: »

Can you experts explain why HMRC want people they are contacting
for the first time to alternativley contact them by e-mail?

if i was HMRC surly you would ask first time people you contact to ring or write, email sounds a scam, what would you be writing in that email for gods sake?

I much prefer email to phoning. I'll choose that option anyday!

It's not dodgy or weird and it doesn't sound like a scam at all. It's how loads and loads of companies operate!

I already answered what you'd write.

Email isn't dodgy and you've given no logical explanation as to why you think it is. It's a form of communication that many many people like to use so HMRC give people that option to communicate with them. That's all there is to it.

Flyonthewall

soolin wrote: »

I really do wish that basic finance was taught as part of the school curriculum.

I've seen that said a couple of times recently yet on a debate about such things a number of people disagreed and said parents should teach it or people just learn themselves.

This thread is one of many that prove that it's not enough and it needs to be taught.

I couldn't agree more with your statement.

arcon5

She's roughly half way to hitting the vat threshold. Not insubstantial numbers.

This thread just shows how right the hmrc are to target eBay sellers.

Stuck_1

i think i was misunderstood i'm more than happy to use e-mail but it's knowing the e-mail your sending to is genuine that's the problem.

a few fake gsi email addresses below for starters

* service@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk
* notice@hmrc.gov.uk
* hmrc@hmrc.gov.uk
* admin@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk
* info@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk
* services@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk

also, no.reply@advice.hmrc.gsi.gov.uk is genuine
no-reply@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk is fake,

getmore4less

Flyonthewall wrote: »

I've seen that said a couple of times recently yet on a debate about such things a number of people disagreed and said parents should teach it or people just learn themselves.

This thread is one of many that prove that it's not enough and it needs to be taught.

I couldn't agree more with your statement.

The current education system fails to have everyone leave with the ability to add up never mine some elementary basic skills like multiply and divide,

It's been going on for long enough that you can no longer expect parents to teach the basics often they should be in the class as well.

the crazy thing is they had it right years ago when you get kids to do their tables, foundation for the smart ones to move onto the harder stuff early and the not so smart to have time for it to sink in.

Stuck_1

HMRC will use the email address customers provided for receiving

this is what HMRC tell people on their site, which sounds safe,

the example i put sounds dodgy, with that example you haven't provided an email your being given one to contact

anamenottaken

Stuck_1 wrote: »

i think i was misunderstood i'm more than happy to use e-mail but it's knowing the e-mail your sending to is genuine that's the problem.

a few fake gsi email addresses below for starters

* service@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk
* notice@hmrc.gov.uk
* hmrc@hmrc.gov.uk
* admin@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk
* info@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk
* services@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk

also, no.reply@advice.hmrc.gsi.gov.uk is genuine
no-reply@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk is fake,

You've given at least one from that list in an earlier post and were subsequently challenged regarding it.

Tell me how emailing a fake (if you mean not operational) hmrc.gsi.gov.uk address is going to advantage a fraudster?

It may not be a monitored email box but it isn't going to go anywhere else, is it? So why would someone provide such an address if they aren't going to gather any information via it?

Flyonthewall

Stuck_1 wrote: »

i think i was misunderstood i'm more than happy to use e-mail but it's knowing the e-mail your sending to is genuine that's the problem.

a few fake gsi email addresses below for starters

* [EMAIL="service@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk"]service@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL]
* [EMAIL="notice@hmrc.gov.uk"]notice@hmrc.gov.uk[/EMAIL]
* [EMAIL="hmrc@hmrc.gov.uk"]hmrc@hmrc.gov.uk[/EMAIL]
* [EMAIL="admin@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk"]admin@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL]
* [EMAIL="info@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk"]info@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL]
* [EMAIL="services@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk"]services@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL]

also, [EMAIL="no.reply@advice.hmrc.gsi.gov.uk"]no.reply@advice.hmrc.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL] is genuine
[EMAIL="no-reply@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk"]no-reply@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL] is fake,

1. No scammer would send a letter with a genuine phone number and address but fake email.

They'd have a fake phone number and run the scam where it charges you a stupid amount to phone. They wouldn't include an address, it'd be stupid. No money in it, no details from it.

2. Scammers are highly unlikely to send a letter. It costs them. They want to make money not lose it!

3. If they email you using a fake address you can view the email source to see where the email really came from, plus you can avoid issues by not clicking links in emails.

As already said, if you can't find an email by googling it does not mean that it is a scam. Also, you make sure not to give any personal details over email (as HMRC say not to do) and then there's nothing to worry about anyway.

Stuck_1

these are emails addresses hmrc are saying arn't theirs, so someone else is obviously getting the information your sending, i dare say the above ones are shut down they were from while back, but scamming people is getting more advance these day & more and more easier

Stuck_1

email contact to scam is miles to obvious these days,
phone contact, letters through the door will be the way forward