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  • TBagpuss
    TBagpuss Posts: 11,237 Forumite
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    Chuckley, you don't know that that company behaved this way deliberately - why would they? recruiting is expensive and time consuming, it's not something companies do for fun.

    It may be that they unexpectedly lost a major contract, for instance. If it is a larger organisation then the budget may have been cut without the department/part of the business the offer came from having had much warning, there are all kinds of genuine reasons why this might happen.

    OP - it's awful that this happened to you. Its worth reading your contract to see whether you are entitled to any pay in lieu of notice from the new employer, and also worth speaking to you old employer to see whether they would consider keeping you on, either in your old job (although that would put your replacement in the position you are now in) or in a different role.

    Very best of luck
    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    chuckley wrote: »
    sangie.... you're giving this company WAY TOO MUCH credit.

    What they have done is wrong and in the same line as folks that interview people and don't even bother to get back to them.

    they can use excuses like budget cuts, e.t.c so 'get out of jail free', but it's all b()locks at the end of the day.

    maybe the person that left, returned, or whatever. All of these businesses are cutthroat, no matter what capacity you are in the chain.

    So you are suggesting that a company that is not performing up to expectations and has to save money should carry on recruiting willy-nilly until such time as they have to make their whole workforce redundant? I didn't suggest that companies are not cutthroat - in fact that is actually exactly what I said they are. Because that is the climate in which they operate. They are not a social services department. The weak go to the wall. That's how it is. In capitalism workers are disposable commodities. I didn't say I agreed with it. I don't. But I am also not expecting the fairy godmother to turn up and make companies "nice". That isn't what they are for. They are for maximising profits. That's all. Blaming a company for acting in character is like blaming a lion for being a lion.
  • andygb
    andygb Posts: 14,655 Forumite
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    sangie595 wrote: »
    The weak go to the wall. That's how it is. In capitalism workers are disposable commodities.


    The OP is not weak at all, the company DID recruit the OP so they should have some obligation here.
    I do hope that you are not "weak" any time soon, because you may find yourself being disposed of.;)
  • aj9648
    aj9648 Posts: 1,388 Forumite
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    Hi

    Thanks for all the messages. I won't mention the org involved but it is part of the government.....

    Current employer has said they can't do anything due to employing someone else in my role.

    So back to sq 1

    Merry xmas!!
  • andygb
    andygb Posts: 14,655 Forumite
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    aj9648 wrote: »
    Hi

    Thanks for all the messages. I won't mention the org involved but it is part of the government.....

    Current employer has said they can't do anything due to employing someone else in my role.

    So back to sq 1

    Merry xmas!!


    Really sorry to hear that AJ, I do hope that you manage to get something soon.
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    andygb wrote: »
    The OP is not weak at all, the company DID recruit the OP so they should have some obligation here.
    I do hope that you are not "weak" any time soon, because you may find yourself being disposed of.;)


    I did not say the OP was weak. Read it again. I said that weak companies go to the wall. And that as a result of that, in the current economic system workers are disposable commodities. If you doubt any of that being the case, then you aren't living in the real world. But thank you for your concern that I may be disposed of - luckily my job is to stop employers disposing of their employees and conditions of work, and there is no evidence that the need for my services is diminishing.


    You may think the company has an obligation here. The fact is that it doesn't have any obligation.


    And given the information that the OP has now disclosed, that this is actually a public sector organisation, then I think the state of the cuts in the public sector is relatively common knowledge, and certainly not something anyone could plan for since these cuts are dictated by government decree. There is no long term financial planning because there can't be, No government body would have been able to know the degree of cuts in their department until they were agreed - and as has been clear in the news recently, there has been very little agreed until the last couple of weeks. And some didn't even know what the implications of cuts would be for them until the actual Budget statement.


    I do wonder, given the views often expressed around here about public sector workers, how many people suddenly just lost all interest in the employers "obligations" in respect of the OP. According to the government the number of people in extraneous positions with great pensions and holidays in the public authorities are one of their favourite targets, along with all those dole scroungers, who are supposed to be the reason the rest of us have such high taxes and the cause of the national debt.
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