Job dilema

[Deleted User]

I guess I'm using this as my own diary/place to write down ideas now..

I interviewed for [1] - decided it wasn't senior enough

Decided I didn't want to commute for [2]

[3] is now exceptionally promising and they really want me to work for them; home based with travel to clients, prospect of being able to build a team up. Sounds great actually. Might need to hire DKLS in the future

[4] There were no jobs in that firm until the end of next year

[5] Sounds like it might happen but apparently now the CEO of the entire group needs to sign it off. Getting silly.

[Deleted User]

[3] Just met with them face to face, had a good chat; sounds promising still and they mentioned a job title with "director" in it

makeyourdaddyproud

I, too, worked in IT, and I can think of nothing worse than colleagues' pointless meandering comments about tech and all things oil consuming and which doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things of a fruitful life- I would rather watch a snail 100m. It has become one of the most boring jobs you could ever suffer, even for £60k.

DKLS

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I guess I'm using this as my own diary/place to write down ideas now..

I interviewed for [1] - decided it wasn't senior enough

Decided I didn't want to commute for [2]

[3] is now exceptionally promising and they really want me to work for them; home based with travel to clients, prospect of being able to build a team up. Sounds great actually. Might need to hire DKLS in the future

[4] There were no jobs in that firm until the end of next year

[5] Sounds like it might happen but apparently now the CEO of the entire group needs to sign it off. Getting silly.

[3] Sounds like its coming together nicely Good luck with that one I hope it owns out.

I get the feeling that [5] will only offer you promotion if you resigned. but will keep dangling that carrot to keep you there. I have had that battle with a CEO before, I have created and fought a business case to give a team member a much needed promotion and was firmly told no, when he was head hunted by Microsoft and announced his resignation I was told I could offer him the promotion :mad:

It was so short sighted of the CEO and soured my relationship with the CEO, and I left 6 months later and I pointed out exactly how much his decision had cost the business in my exit interview. Which was circa 20 x the cost of giving him the promotion.

I heard this week that my former team mate is being interviewed by Elon Musk in january :j:T

[Deleted User]

Damn, Elon Musk? That's awesome. That guy is a real life Tony Stark

I agree that my promotion might magically appear if/when I resign, and they realise the £10k pay-rise I'm asking for is cheap in comparison to replacing me. It must annoy our head of department that he can't promote people. Sadly, the business hasn't grown, our team lacks a career structure and this is the end consequence. It's a shame as I really like my colleagues.

Maybe I'll hire them in a years time

DKLS

Yup that Elon Musk, I nearly fell off my chair when he told me. Am so excited for him and proud to say I played a tiny part in his career.
Not bad for a kid on the aspie spectrum who was written off as a no-hoper by his school.

Murphybear

Good luck with whatever you decide.

I think you are wise in not commuting into London. I did that for years and it was very stressful. Worse times were when they cancelled a train and you had to fight to get on the next one. I commuted to Oxford Circus that was a nightmare 20 years ago, heaven knows what it's like now

gettingready

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Oh I've done it, spending £2k a year to travel on the miserable public transport system, 2 hours of my life spent squeezed on trains and the tube.

Ermmm and how long ago was that? My contract before the current one meant a 1 hour 45 commute EACH way every day from East London to SW London. Done it for 9 months...

Current one - after 2 weeks of 2 hours 30 minutes there and 3 hours 30 minutes back (so 6 hours per day - if there was no problems on the way) and resigned myself to renting a room on a Mon-Fri basis just to keep sane. Still here since June, out of London.

BUT - I am contracting (Clinical Systems, Cerner at the moment = not for them directly but on site in an Acute NHS)
and love where I am now so.. staying put.

In your position - I would venture outside the comfort zone a bit, stretch a bit, widen your horizons... move company. In your current one, you know nothing will change any time soon, you have been with them for too long

All the best

bugslet

That sounds good Ringo, hope 3. turns out to be the right one.

Off to find out who Elin Musk is. Or what..... :-)

ThemeOne

I also hope number 3 comes to some kind of fruition, as the way you describe it your current employers are simply stringing you along.

They may tell you you're awesome (and you probably are) but words are cheap and the brutal truth is you're just an employee and employees are always expendable.

I think you're right not to go down the contracting route, although I'm freelance myself I never recommend it to people who have mortgages and/or families to support, as it can be financially precarious.

I also agree that commuting into London on a permanent basis is horrible - life is really too short if there's any alternative.