NHS part time public holiday

GlasweJen

I work part time for the NHS, I'm on a 22.5 hour contract and work 3 days per week.

For Christmas week I'm scheduled to be in 3 days plus the Friday is a public holiday. New year week I'm rota'd Monday PH, working Tuesday and Wednesday and PH on Thursday Friday.

For the September PH I worked 2 days and the holiday counted as my 3rd day in.

My direct line manager is a SCN who is sited elsewhere and also works PT and is on holiday now so I can't speak to her about this until next Friday but the nurse on our site wants me to put in annual leave but I can't work out how much I have and neither can she!

Can anyone explain how this should be worked out?

Serendipitious

What is your annual leave entitlement?

How many bank/public holidays are there in addition?

How much of your annual leave have you used so far?

specialboy

Do your 3 days vary each week? How much holiday do you have left to take?

WHA

What does your contract say about annual holiday entitlement and the consequences of working on a bank holiday. If it's not in your contract, it will be in the staff handbook. No-one can guess at the contract and working practices that you are working under.

t0rt0ise

Working 22.5 hours a week you will get 3/5 (three fifths) of what a full-time worker gets. So work out the leave entitlement in days for the year and then see what you've already had. Any public holidays that you should work but have off will count as a day's leave.


When I worked those hours in the NHS the full-timers got 27 days plus 8 days bank holidays which is 35 days, so for 22.5 hours a week I got 21 days. I used to work a Friday but the department was closed on Good Friday so that counted as one of my leave days. Bank Holiday Mondays did not as I didn't work Mondays anyway.

GlasweJen

My days vary and I don't have any set days at all, just 22.5 hours - sometimes I even do 2 full days and 2 half days depending on the needs of the clinic.

Full time AL allowance is 28 days + 8PH. I started in July this year and SCN had written on the leave sheet that I had 90 odd hours plus PH (no number just +PH) but when I checked it today it now says I have 118 hours to take. As the rota's are done now until mid January I think she's assumed I'll get the PH off when even though I'm not working those days I am working my full 22.5 hours one week and 15 hours the next week. I'm working it out that I should have 3 days left and she's working out that I'm getting 4 days PH.

The other part timer is also confused but did tell me that SCN adds our holiday hours and PH hours together, "saves" 8 as public holiday and releases the rest as holiday as it makes life easier for her because the hospital is closed on public holidays.

DepositSaver

Hi, I work in the NHS, also in a department which does not work on bank holidays. Under agenda for change contracts (which I assume you are on as the majority of non doctors are) if your working day is greater or less than 7.5 hours then the annual leave allowance is worked out in hours and the total would cover leave and bank holidays (At my trust everyone's leave is calculated in hours as I guess it makes life easier)

As a part timer your leave allowance is pro-rata-ed, both the annual leave and the BH parts of it (i.e. You don't just get 8 days added onto to pro-rata-ed leave allowance) If we are due to work on a day which is a bank holiday then a day's leave (or however many hours we were due to work that day) is booked. If we weren't due to work that day no leave is booked. If you're not due to work.

You might find some useful info in these:

http://www.nhsemployers.org/your-workforce/pay-and-reward/nhs-terms-and-conditions/nhs-terms-and-conditions-of-service-handbook/annual-leave-and-public-holidays-section-13

and Section 13 of this
http://www.nhsemployers.org/~/media/Employers/Documents/Pay%20and%20reward/AfC_tc_of_service_handbook_fb.pdf

Just noticed you said full time allowance is 28 days, whereas AfC allowance is 27, so now not sure if you're on an AfC contract?

DepositSaver

i have just found an NHS annual leave calculator online and for someone with a start date of 1st July this year, and if the full time allowance is 27 days (no option of 28 days) the allowance comes out at 118 hours. All annual leave, and all bank holidays since July would need to be taken out this if they fall on days you are due to work.

t0rt0ise

Which is what I said ages ago only in days for the full year. I assumed they could work out from that.

Full time = 27+8=35 days
Prt-time (22.5 hrs) = (35/5)*3 = 21 days
21 days per year = 15.75 days since July 1st
15.75 days = 15.75*7.5 = 118.125 hours

DepositSaver

t0rt0ise wrote: »

Which is what I said ages ago only in days for the full year. I assumed they could work out from that.

Full time = 27+8=35 days
Prt-time (22.5 hrs) = (35/5)*3 = 21 days
21 days per year = 15.75 days since July 1st
15.75 days = 15.75*7.5 = 118.125 hours

Hopefully they have sorted it out now, sounds as if the employer is doing the wrong thing with BHs.

GlasweJen

SCN has got to the 118 hours which is fine but is now deducting 15 hours holiday for Christmas week even though I'm working 22.5 hours that week. She's adamant I must take the holiday as the hospital is closed but won't appreciate that I have already worked my hours that week it doesn't matter that the hospital is closed as I've done all my work anyway.