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Joint Mortgage with brother

Hi folks,

About 4 years ago I helped my brother get on the property ladder by helping him get a joint mortgage. I do not contribute to the mortgage at all and have no interest in it, however I am 90% certain that my name is also on the title deeds. He does not live in it, and it is a buy-to-let.

There's a chance that I will be declared bankrupt. So my question is, will my creditors be able to force a sale of this property - even if it can be proved I do not contribute towards the mortgage?

Thanks in advance.

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  • Cobalt77
    Cobalt77 Posts: 238 Forumite
    How much equity is in the property (if any)?
  • About £80k
  • Cobalt77
    Cobalt77 Posts: 238 Forumite
    I suspect that, if you go BR, the OR will be after your £40K share of the equity then.
  • MEM62
    MEM62 Posts: 5,577 Forumite
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    The OR will seek to establish whether you have a beneficial interest in the property. Based on what you have advised there is a reasonable chance that he may be able to do so - in which case he will seek to recover your share of the properties equity.
  • What do you think might be the OR's assumption with regards to me having beneficial interest in the property?

    I didn't help my brother with the deposit and haven't assisted him with mortgage payments.

    I am going to be calling a few solicitors to see how they might see the situation.
  • Flyright
    Flyright Posts: 424 Forumite
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    The OR will see it as what it is; a joint asset in which your share will be realised as part of your bankruptcy estate.
  • Cobalt77
    Cobalt77 Posts: 238 Forumite
    Your best bet is to contact someone like DebtDoctor on this board, Fink2iCe

    Most solicitors aren't really that clued up on Insolvency Law - so will only end up costing you more money without providing any material benefit.

    It's quite clear cut. When you go BR, all your assets are sold (i.e. liquidated) to help pay off the monies you owe to creditors. Because the property is held in joint names at the Land Registry, you legally own 50% (and this will immediately become apparent to the OR when they do a Land Registry search)

    The only thing I'm not reasonably certain about is what rights the OR would have (if any) to force a sale. However, given that your brother doesn't live in it and it is a buy-to-let, I would guess the OR would probably see if your brother is in a position to buy out your share before going down that route.
  • Flyright
    Flyright Posts: 424 Forumite
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    The OR may also seek to claim some of the rental income as an asset in your bankruptcy too.
  • It would be worth finding out what the or calculates your beneficial interest as and your brother potentially remortgaging to buy out your interest/ pay off your debts if less than 40k
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  • I spoke to a solicitor today. His view was that the fact that there's no evidence that I've contributed towards the mortgage, and have never received any rental income - are points in my favour as it demonstrates that I have no beneficial interest in the property.

    I hope to speak to a few more on Monday to see what others have to say.
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