They want me to pay £70 for CRB check???

HappyMJ

Why do you need a passport to "begin work"? I don't have one and have zero intention of getting one to get a job...unless of course the potential employer wishes to pay for it. They're not cheap.

TELLIT01

The company my sister-in-law works for insists that she pays for the check which has to be done every 3 years.

theoretica

The cost for a DBS is £44 - though some companies don't want the hassle of arranging them and go through umbrella companies which will charge an admin fee https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check/overview
but expection potential employees to pay such an expensive admin fee seems unreasonable to me.
https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check/overview

emmy05

sometimes they ask us to pay, sometimes they pay it, some companies will reimburse you, lets face it, noone wants to waste their money if your dbs isnt going to be clear. also a company could pay for this check, and you walk off with it to another job, if you really want the job, then youll pay, its as easy as that.

Paully232000

FireWyrm wrote: »

Yes, it is.

It came in around late 2013 with £10K fines per instance for companies who do not perform checks on their workforce. I was caught out by this a few months ago and found I suddenly needed a passport to begin work although I am a British citizen. Most companies are just rolling the whole checking process into one monster verification check including a credit check and CRB for which the cost is typically £75 - £90 if done through a 'verification' company. It is now normal and required by law (although apparently not communicated widely) that these checks are required as part of the Right To Work initiative. Where once you may have been asked for this information, now companies are actually being fined for not carrying them out. While CRB should only apply if you are working with vulnerable people, in practice, these 'verification' companies include it as part of the standard new employee check process. Employers are essentially buying a whole 'verify me' check off the shelf of which CRB is just part. Although you may be told it is a CRB check, in reality, there are other checks that just go hand in hand. The company covers itself for every eventuality regardless of whether it is applicable to the employee or role.

Believe me, I was as astonished as anyone, but the Managing Director of the company I was being made redundant from (and another I was going to) told me the same thing. All companies are required to carry out these checks, so they just do the whole lot in one go now. Checks on identity, convictions and credit are being done far more regularly since the Government prosecuted a couple of companies for non-compliance. Be warned. When you next try to take up a position, you are most likely to have to go through these checks whether they are applicable or not. There is very much a 'rules is rules' mentality and no one is prepared to apply common sense on the basis that if they dont check, and the company unknowingly employs someone unsuitable or illegal, they can be fined and large amounts of money too.

I am sure all that is true, but the my answer was about whether a DBS check has anything to do with immigration. Which it hasn't.

Paully232000

emmy05 wrote: »

sometimes they ask us to pay, sometimes they pay it, some companies will reimburse you, lets face it, noone wants to waste their money if your dbs isnt going to be clear. also a company could pay for this check, and you walk off with it to another job, if you really want the job, then youll pay, its as easy as that.

I have never had to pay for a DBS, so would be wary of any company asking me to pay without any guarantee of a job/reimbursement.

Also, any CRB/DBS check I have had over the years, the last one being in May this year hasn't been transferable to any other company. Including having to have two in less than a year as was with two organisations. So not as easy as walking off with the check to another company.

FireWyrm

HappyMJ wrote: »

Why do you need a passport to "begin work"? I don't have one and have zero intention of getting one to get a job...unless of course the potential employer wishes to pay for it. They're not cheap.

Read what I wrote. Companies are being fined for not checking the immigration status of their employees and so are buying 'verify me' packages from online companies and performing blanket checks on all new employees to prove that they have done so for new Government regulation. CRB checks are just part of this process and regardless of whether they are applicable to the role or the employee, they are being done as part of this 'off the shelf' process.

When you next try to get a job, you are very likely to be required to produce a passport or other immigration document, just as you are now going to have to do the same to rent a property.

Does no one read the papers these days?

FireWyrm

Paully232000 wrote: »

I am sure all that is true, but the my answer was about whether a DBS check has anything to do with immigration. Which it hasn't.

It does if the 'verification company' being used by your employer offers it as part of a one-stop package which they do along with credit checks and background checks into previous employment. It is obviously the law of unintended consequences. Where once the CRB was only applicable to those working in certain occupations, it is now being done on a blanket basis as one of a series of checks as a direct result of the new 'immigration' process the Government has recently introduced. Employers are merely performing a suite of checks all in one go, of which CRB is one, immigration status another, credit and background checks, yet more.

The same immigration status checks are now to be required for Renting. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation, this is what is happening. As with Data Protection where companies are prohibited from using common sense because of the ridiculous fines, so the same is happening with new 'immigration status check' laws which were half thought out and part baked. It is going to hit all UK workers trying to find a new job and those trying to secure rented accommodation.

Pretty soon, it will just be easier to get a government approved identity card which will be sufficient for all purposes. At the moment, the various situations are not joined to each other, but this is just introducing identification cards by the back door. Although people dont want them, the Government will just make it difficult to exist without one - like bank accounts.

andygb

AubreyMac wrote: »

If you're not working could you get the jobcentre to pay for it?

I am having one done at the moment, and although I informed the jobcentre about it, they said that they cannot pay it for me. Mine is £57:(

t0rt0ise

Even some NHS job adverts state that the DBS check has to be paid for by the employee. Things are getting worse for employees.