seetec community work programme

red_devil

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Yeah, how darest a charity relying heavily on volunteers take in people who should want experience! And to work with a company who is making it easier for them to get volunteers...terrible.

While the people at the actual charity don't seem to care much the decision to take them most likely came from further up in the charity and the people there should want to gain experience to help them get work.

It's wrong the way WP treat people and force them to go to such places, but the charities aren't at fault. They have nothing at all to do with any sanctioning.

The issue is with the JC wanting to get rid of people and appear to be doing something and the WP trying to get money and appear to be helping so the JC continue contracting them.

They're possibly not being trained properly to use the till, but there's been nothing to say they're not being supervised. Not really sure you need to be supervised when you're standing around chatting anyhow...

keepvolunteeringvoluntary.net tells you all you need to know. It tells you which charities refuse to have anything to do with it, as well. Its a great site. Charities ARE involved in sanctioning because they can feedback to the government provider who refers you for sanctioning. They are in contact.

Flyonthewall

red_devil wrote: »

keepvolunteeringvoluntary.net tells you all you need to know. It tells you which charities refuse to have anything to do with it, as well. Its a great site. Charities ARE involved in sanctioning because they can feedback to the government provider who refers you for sanctioning. They are in contact.

I've done a WP which sent me to a charity. When there was an issue they went to the WP who then made the decision of what to do next. The charity had no say in what happened next nor did they have any say in whether I should be sanctioned. They merely said this is our side to what happened.

The charity shop manager had no idea what would happen, just that I was leaving there and they'd state why to the WP. Nothing more. Had I been sanctioned it would have been completely down to the WP.

Giving bad feedback may be the cause to the WP sanctioning someone, but it's not the charities fault if it happens, they are in no way involved with that system and they have no say at all in the decision. The word sanction is not mentioned by them. They have no knowledge of anything happening outside of the charity.

Podge52

tomtontom wrote: »

The Jobcentre can get you support with basic literacy skills red devil, if you think that might be helpful?

You may not like red devils opinion but that is no reason to insult him/her.

tomtontom

Podge52 wrote: »

You may not like red devils opinion but that is no reason to insult him/her.

If someone faces an obvious barrier to employment is it better to offer constructive advice or pretend the issue doesn't exist? red devil clearly needs help with their literacy skills so I am pointing them in the right direction, there's nothing insulting in that.