employment : overtime query

custardy

elsien wrote: »

I was told the same thing with my last job - salaried like you.
The line of reasoning seemed to be that as a manager, if I did overtime to cover a support worker not turning up, I was doing the support worker role so that's all they were paying.
My argument was that even at my full rate I was cheaper than agency which was the other alternative, so they either paid me properly or I refused the overtime.

We are the same. However I tend to log in a TOIL claim and get paid the higher rate to take a day off.

akeem1314

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

I can't see the problem: normal salary = £10.32 per hour, overtime is paid at £13.53 per hour.

You do realise they don't have to pay a higher hourly rate for overtime at all?

The way I see it is 10.32 per hour at time and a half should be 15.48 and not 13.53

Takeaway_Addict

Now you've made yourself clear it comes down to what is written in your contract.

If there is no mention that the overtime rate is based against a lower rate then you might have an arguement, but the fact you know what this new rate is and have worked on this new rate might mean the employer argues you have accepted this new term regards overtime.

How long have you worked there and do you really want to fight this?

Stevie_Palimo

akeem1314 wrote: »

The way I see it is 10.32 per hour at time and a half should be 15.48 and not 13.53

I can't see the problem they pay you more when you do overtime so if you do not like the rate then do not the overtime.

glentoran99

maybe its time and one 3rd and not time and a half as you believe?

liney

Basing your OT rate on £9.02 suggests that your £10 rate includes some kind of shift allowence.


You would only get the 1.5 on the basic hourly day shift rate, not a rate that already includes a shift premium.

akeem1314

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Now you've made yourself clear it comes down to what is written in your contract.

If there is no mention that the overtime rate is based against a lower rate then you might have an arguement, but the fact you know what this new rate is and have worked on this new rate might mean the employer argues you have accepted this new term regards overtime.

How long have you worked there and do you really want to fight this?

There is no mention in the contract that the overtime rate is at a lower rate.

I have worked there for nearly ten years, our contracts have recently changed to incorporate a new method of working.

akeem1314

Stevie_Palimo wrote: »

I can't see the problem they pay you more when you do overtime so if you do not like the rate then do not the overtime.

No they are basing it on a 9.02 rate at time and half

akeem1314

liney wrote: »

Basing your OT rate on £9.02 suggests that your £10 rate includes some kind of shift allowence.


You would only get the 1.5 on the basic hourly day shift rate, not a rate that already includes a shift premium.

There is no shift premium, stated in the contract

Stevie_Palimo

akeem1314 wrote: »

No they are basing it on a 9.02 rate at time and half

Don't do the overtime then if your not keen on the rate you get, I am sure others within the same place of employment will be more than happy to oblige, Anything above the standard rate of pay for overtime is a bonus so you could cause a rift by bringing this up and then not be offered anymore again.


However that said if you have a contract that states different then bring it up, Be aware that if you do this the above can apply and while it should not do so some employers would see as you a trouble maker and not want to offer anything on top of the standard hours.