Nurse training, is it worth it?

Polarbeary

milliemonster wrote: »

By the time you qualify, £21k will not be the starting salary as you won't be a band 5, the
government are looking at reducing the starting salary to band 4 for newly qualified nurses for 2 years and it is highly likely that unsocial hours premium will be a distant memory in the next few years.

Are NQ's REALLY going to be band 4s? I've just done a Google and can't find anything? NHS Trusts (and private hospitals) are already struggling for staff. One Trust in the south-west has 100 nursing vacancies, 30 people applied! London alone is short of several thousand nurses, St Barts needs another 1500 nurses. Hence, nurses are recruited from abroad.

If nurses are downgraded and pay enhancements are cut, who will be left to nurse? I imagine the NHS will be even more reliant on using nursing agencies which will cost more in the long run. With older people living longer and with chronic conditions I don't know what will happen.

Other AHPs such as occy therapists, physios, speech therapists etc....many of the jobs advertised are band 6 and 7, fewer band 5s.

If nurses stood up for themselves this wouldn't happen. Unfortunately they don't and never have.

Johnnytwostep

xapprenticex wrote: »

boyfriend, kids, houses,...... dont people consider getting married (assuming you want to be togeather for the rest of your lives).

Good luck with career too.[/QUOT

Hello, the 1950s calling, your horse and cart is waiting to take you back.

Sncjw

Also you never seem to get time to sit with patients and actually care and find out about them depending on the area you will work in. Wards your constantly doing handover then drug round for breakfast, making up Iv then maybe prepping patients for theatre, collecting them, admitting them from a and e, discharging which takes a long time to do, sorting out social issues, ensuring hca are doing their job correctly, then lunch time another round of drugs and Iv, handover to evening staff, ( on one ward the staff nurses used the more staff after handover and visiting time to do the paperwork diaries of how patients have been despite only seeing them for 5 mins probably during the day, evening staff dealing with families on little information then when that's over evening medication and Iv ensuring hca are one with feeding and then doing any missed tasks. On top of this throw in requests for X-ray and other department tests, emergencies, phone calls, maybe if you have some free time to help with washing patients, and the several turns you have to do and checking bp charts.

Really stressful job and then doctors wonder why certain things weren't done. It's always about constant assesment of what is priority.

Sncjw

Uni tells you about holistic care but it's so difficult when your on a busy day like this plus when you qualify to be a mentor you have student nurses to teach as well.