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MSE News: State pension to rise by at least 2.5% next April

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  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    greenglide wrote: »
    The full nSP rate cannot be less than the Pension Credit single person guarantee which is currently £151.20.

    Yes but "full" is the critical word. The MSE article says "It's already been announced that the new flat-rate state pension system for women born on or after 6 April 1953 or men born on or after 6 April 1951 will be no less than £151.25/week."

    That really doesn't help the ongoing belief that some have that they'd get this sum even without the required number of qualifying years, and even if contracted out for long periods.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,491 Forumite
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    Oblivion wrote: »
    I would be, oh yes :beer:
    It all down to individuals and their savings and their personal lifestyle spending needs and habits. I'd be quids in with high inflation and interest rates to match. ;)
    Open an account in Venezuela then! http://www.tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/interest-rate :rotfl:
  • bigfreddiel
    bigfreddiel Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    edited 13 October 2015 at 5:15PM
    greenglide wrote: »
    And people who have RPI linked pensions (as I will next year) can smile!

    Just out of interest who is your rpi linked pension with?

    Cheers fj
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,630 Forumite
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    People with RPI linked pensions can also lose out if they are receiving their state pension and have GMP.

    A relative has RPI linked scheme pension but the GMP part thereof is linked to CPI - there will be no increase to the pre 88 GMP (paid by the state) because CPI is negative and no increase to post 88 GMP through the scheme because CPI is negative.
  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    Just out of interest who is your rpi linked pension with?

    Cheers fj
    My current employer:)

    I have looked at the full details in the full scheme details, not just the booklet and it definitely says RPI. Unfortunately a chunk of it is capped at 5%.
  • bigfreddiel
    bigfreddiel Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    greenglide wrote: »
    My current employer:)

    I have looked at the full details in the full scheme details, not just the booklet and it definitely says RPI. Unfortunately a chunk of it is capped at 5%.

    And who is your employer?

    Also have you checked the latest handbook, I had an rpi linked pension but it changed to cpi quite some time ago!

    Cheers fj
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    My pension is 100% linked to the stock market, so please stop moaning!
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    The 10.4% annual boost for deferral, and 2.5% boost on the basic part of the underlying pension, do look awfully good in a world where CPI inflation is essentially zero. Or rather, they look good for those receiving them, but rather bad for those funding them.

    This may be an unpopular thing to say on this forum, but wouldn't it be more defensible to increase basic (and additional) pension by the inflation in earnings?
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • bigfreddiel
    bigfreddiel Posts: 4,263 Forumite
    Actually the increase will be 2.9% the growth in earnings figure.

    Cheers fj
  • greenglide
    greenglide Posts: 3,301 Forumite
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    And who is your employer?

    Also have you checked the latest handbook, I had an rpi linked pension but it changed to cpi quite some time ago!

    Cheers fj
    To move from RPI to CPI would require a change to the underlying trust deeds as the RPI is stated quite categorically there. Isn't it the ones that just use the term "inflation" rather the actual index to be used that can be easily changed?

    Employer is the UK subsidiary of a US computer services company which has significant contracts with HMG, including DWP.
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