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  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    TBH I simply don't understand who works in the UK now.

    Everyone seems to be on the minimum wage working 16 hours a week or is funny-money unemployed or works for the NHS or strikes instead of driving a tube train.

    Surely the UK economy doesn't now consist of Poles living 8 to a room, work shy locals and a bunch of bankers having their income redistributed.
    The 45k employees is the staff for whole group and a lot of bar staff etc are part time. I think you might b surprised how many firms mainly offer part time contracts. A couple of my friends kids were only offered part time contracts, that was for Sainsburys and Starbucks although most weeks they did get extra work. They both now have full time jobs elsewhere.
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    The 45k employees is the staff for whole group and a lot of bar staff etc are part time. I think you might b surprised how many firms mainly offer part time contracts. A couple of my friends kids were only offered part time contracts, that was for Sainsburys and Starbucks although most weeks they did get extra work. They both now have full time jobs elsewhere.

    what do we conclude from this anecdote?
    that there are plenty of full time jobs for people willing to look hard and a lot of people only want part time work?
  • ukcarper
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    what do we conclude from this anecdote?
    that there are plenty of full time jobs for people willing to look hard and a lot of people only want part time work?

    No .
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    No .

    the evidence you presented seems to say differently but no matter; we all know there are full time jobs and we know that some people prefer to work part time
    we also know the the benefits system doesn't encourage full time work in many situations
  • ukcarper
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the evidence you presented seems to say differently but no matter; we all know there are full time jobs and we know that some people prefer to work part time
    we also know the the benefits system doesn't encourage full time work in many situations
    No it doesn't
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    No it doesn't

    we'll just have to disagree about the benefits system then
  • Thrugelmir
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    what do we conclude from this anecdote?
    that there are plenty of full time jobs for people willing to look hard and a lot of people only want part time work?

    Employment law has changed. Entitlement to paid holidays , paid bank holidays and holiday entitlement itself has resulted in more minimum hours contracts. While it suits many. Those that want additional hours have to work whatever is offered. Otherwise they appear to be discriminated against when additional hours are required to be worked, i.e. they are offered to someone else first.

    All about companies keeping costs down. Payroll is the largest cost to many employers.
  • ukcarper
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    we'll just have to disagree about the benefits system then
    You have very little idea what I think about the benefit system, I was just point out some facts and for your information both the people were not claiming benefits when working part time.
  • michaels
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    what do we conclude from this anecdote?
    that there are plenty of full time jobs for people willing to look hard and a lot of people only want part time work?

    Or that a crazy NI system incentivizes employers to employ more part time workers?
    I think....
  • dktreesea
    dktreesea Posts: 5,736 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    I suspect that a lot more than 10,000 of Whitbread's workers are on the minimum wage and certainly on less than £9.50/ hr as that is well over the average wage in the catering sector.

    I want the minimum wage to be £9.50 an hour. At least.
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