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High housing costs costing London £3bn a year
Graham_Devon
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Looks like even business is now starting to complain about high costs of living and the accommodation shortage in London.
The article also leads us back to something that's often cropped up on this forum. Many suggest that money going on rent could be going elsewhere and feed into the economy. However, on the flip side of that many suggest it is fed into the economy via the landlord. This does not appear to back up that assertion. It's obvious to me that 30 people spending money in the local economy is better than one person spending it.
More than two thrids of renters in London are leaving to go buy a place somewhere else.
Article one:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11925071/Revealed-The-3bn-cost-of-Londons-housing-crisis.html
Article two:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/11925580/The-exodus-of-homebuyers-from-London-hits-epic-levels.html
Seems we not only have a problem - but appears it's not just the little man suffering now - it's business too.
The article also leads us back to something that's often cropped up on this forum. Many suggest that money going on rent could be going elsewhere and feed into the economy. However, on the flip side of that many suggest it is fed into the economy via the landlord. This does not appear to back up that assertion. It's obvious to me that 30 people spending money in the local economy is better than one person spending it.
In a second article today, figures have been released of the amount of young people leaving london de to high living costs. It's described as a "place to work, not to live".London’s housing crisis will cost the capital almost £3bn this year in lost consumer spending, according to a major new study on the economic impact of the homes shortage.
Crippling rents and mortgages in the capital – where house prices have doubled in a decade – will result in the “unnecessary” loss of £2.7bn from the consumer pay packet in 2015, according to research carried out by the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR).
More than two thrids of renters in London are leaving to go buy a place somewhere else.
Article one:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11925071/Revealed-The-3bn-cost-of-Londons-housing-crisis.html
Article two:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/11925580/The-exodus-of-homebuyers-from-London-hits-epic-levels.html
Seems we not only have a problem - but appears it's not just the little man suffering now - it's business too.
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Graham_Devon wrote: »Looks like even business is now starting to complain about high costs of living and the accommodation shortage in London.
The article also leads us back to something that's often cropped up on this forum. Many suggest that money going on rent could be going elsewhere and feed into the economy. However, on the flip side of that many suggest it is fed into the economy via the landlord. This does not appear to back up that assertion. It's obvious to me that 30 people spending money in the local economy is better than one person spending it.
In a second article today, figures have been released of the amount of young people leaving london de to high living costs. It's described as a "place to work, not to live".
More than two thrids of renters in London are leaving to go buy a place somewhere else.
Article one:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11925071/Revealed-The-3bn-cost-of-Londons-housing-crisis.html
Article two:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/11925580/The-exodus-of-homebuyers-from-London-hits-epic-levels.html
Seems we not only have a problem - but appears it's not just the little man suffering now - it's business too.
accountants not economists
if things are 'too' expensive in London relative to other places then the inevitable will follow to the benefit of all.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Seems we not only have a problem - but appears it's not just the little man suffering now - it's business too.
Is it all bad news though. HSBC is transferring 1,000 jobs to Birmingham. Isn't a less London centric economy better for the UK?0 -
Quite a few organisations, both public and private, have relocated their head offices (or substantial chunks of their organisation) to near me in the grim North. They do cause surges in house prices, what with not knowing the value of money and all that, but it's generally a good thing.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
Isn't a less London centric economy better for the UK?
Absolutely.
Doesn't seem to having a huge effect on the ground though.
Parts of the North still lack opportunities and infrastructure and London is still very overcrowded (I don't just mean housing, I mean public transport as well).
We need both more investment elsewhere and also less overcrowing in London.0 -
Not just house price, train fare to London is robbery as well.
Now the wealthy Arabs and Russians will realize that they can buy multi-million pound properties in London but nobody will remain there to wash their backsides in the toiletHappiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.0 -
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Good point, but also just 1,000 is a drop in the ocean.
It needs to become more of a trend.0 -
GOK how long it took and how much it cost to move various government departments to "The Kremlin" in Leeds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarry_Hill,_Leeds
It's kitted out with gym, squash courts, swimming pool, deep pile carpets, expensive artwork, and everything else you'd associate with the public sector.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bureaucrats-stay-in-the-pink-1511377.htmlI am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
No mention that plenty of people ride the property escalator and then use some of the equity to realise all manner of enterprise both home and abroad.0
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Good point, but also just 1,000 is a drop in the ocean.
99% of businesses in the UK are SME's. Of these 96% only employ between 1 and 9 people.
So change isn't going to be noticeable. Will be gradual. Just like the growth of digital technology in Manchester. Centres of excellence take a while to build.0
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