Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Buy-to-let is danger to UK economy, warns Bank

Headline in both the Times and Telegraph!
Regulators at the Bank of England warned that they are becoming increasingly concerned about the danger buy-to-let mortgage lending could pose to financial stability.

In its quarterly financial policy statement, the bank said that landlords could be disproportionately vulnerable to very large falls in house prices and could amplify a downturn in the market.

Buy-to-let lending has grown by 40 per cent since 2008, 20 times faster than lending to owner occupiers.

The bank’s financial policy committee said it expected house price growth to pick up speed in the short term and warned that this could prompt owner occupiers to take on even larger loans, “thereby increasing overall risks to financial stability”.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/banking/article4567635.ece

Subscription article
«13456

Comments

  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Headline in both the Times and Telegraph!



    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/banking/article4567635.ece

    Subscription article



    one thought their job was to do something to stop it destabilising the financial system
  • Carl31
    Carl31 Posts: 2,616 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    one thought their job was to do something to stop it destabilising the financial system

    and why are they concerned with it anyway?
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    I can't see how BTL is more risk than owner hones.

    A BTL purchase is usually 75% or less LTV while an owner can easily get a rate of 85-90%.

    A BTL purchase also potentially has other assets the bank can sell off to recover any loans.

    The biggest risk to banks are the surveyors. If they don't over value the security Property there is almost nil chance of a loss as you would need a crash in prices in excess of 20-25% to cause a loss to the lender
  • MPD
    MPD Posts: 261 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts
    Its not individual risk, its a risk to the system.

    Same article on BBC News
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34356801
    After years of disappointment with get-rich-quick schemes, I know I'm gonna get rich with this scheme...and quick! - Homer Simpson
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The thing with this article is, yes, they are highlighting a risk. But they are also highlighting and listing the reasons for said risk.

    What they are not doing is anything to combat any part of it.

    They are the ones with the power to do something. So do something. No point in raising all these risks and warning everyone if the only people with the power to do something sit on their hands.
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,793 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Surely this has already been addressed, by introducing new rules about reducing the amount of allowable mortgage interest against tax for landlords, BTL loans will see a dramatic fall.
    Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop
  • I'll take my earlier words back if the BOE carries this out.

    Looks like they are looking into putting a cap on BTL lending.
    Officials are watching for lenders making it easier for would-be landlords to get loans, with the government weighing up whether to give the Bank powers to cap buy-to-let lending as it can for owner-occupied loans. A sudden fall in house prices could be worsened if landlords are forced to sell their properties the Bank’s financial policy committee (FPC) warned.

    http://www.cityam.com/225245/bank-england-may-put-cap-lending-buy-let-landlords
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    cells wrote: »
    I can't see how BTL is more risk than owner hones.

    A BTL purchase is usually 75% or less LTV while an owner can easily get a rate of 85-90%.

    A BTL purchase also potentially has other assets the bank can sell off to recover any loans.

    The biggest risk to banks are the surveyors. If they don't over value the security Property there is almost nil chance of a loss as you would need a crash in prices in excess of 20-25% to cause a loss to the lender

    A BTL is about twice as likely to be repossessed than a OO property and a LL that gets repossessed is likely not to have been maintaining the place. Your points are good though, IMHO.
  • I think a bearded bloke and his old pal john are much more dangerous to the British economy.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    A friend is due to retire at 50 soon from a public sector job.

    He will get a lump sum plus salary-based pension.

    He has been told that the worst thing he could do with the lump sum is put it in a bank. All the talk with his colleagues in a similar situation has therefore shifted towards buying property to let.

    It's hardly surprising BTL is proving popular when the alternatives are much less attractive.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.