VW caught cheating the system.

daveyjp

Chief Exec of VAG may be having a sleepless night tonight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34298259

Deliberately setting out to fix emission tests, selling cars on the back of these tests, potential class action from affected owners?

I wonder if they did similar with EU tests?

Johnmcl7

I've been wondering the same, most of the manufacturers seem to go over the limit although Audi are well over it:

http://www.transportenvironment.org/publications/dont-breathe-here-tackling-air-pollution-vehicles

Having said that VW on that page aren't so bad, I don't know how similar the US models are to the EU ones as I'm not sure how many of the consumer diesel engines are currently using adblue? I know the commercial ones but lost track a bit now.

John

facade

Why on earth didn't Nissan use that to get my car into a decently lower tax band, instead of my having to pay £180 a year then?

B******s!

WellKnownSid

Johnmcl7 wrote: »

Having said that VW on that page aren't so bad,

Apart from their Audi brand!!

Trouble is, all manufacturers have chased the numbers for years. Motorsport has shown how software can be used "creatively" - this next step was inevitable...

Johnmcl7

WellKnownSid wrote: »

Apart from their Audi brand!!

Trouble is, all manufacturers have chased the numbers for years. Motorsport has shown how software can be used "creatively" - this next step was inevitable...

I know but they separate VW and Audi on that page - the Audis share some of the same engines but the ones that were responsible for going way over the limit were the bigger engines you don't get in the VW cars nor the ones sold in the US. If they were doing the same to the VW's here then since more of them do share the same engines, I'd expect to see them similarly going way over the limit as well.

John

Johnmcl7

facade wrote: »

Why on earth didn't Nissan use that to get my car into a decently lower tax band, instead of my having to pay £180 a year then?

B******s!

I've been wondering how manufacturers are managing to get cars so way down the VED bands, I have a mk2 Mazda6 with a 170bhp 2.5 petrol engine which is succeeded in sorts by the a 163bhp 2.0 petrol engine. The VED on mine is £260 yet on the new engine it's just £130, I realise they will have made improvements but the engine isn't fundamentally different (still normally aspirated) so I can't see how they've made it that much more efficient.

Similarly a friend has just bought a 62 plate Golf mk 6 with the 140bhp 2.0 TDI engine and the VED is just £30 which I find hard to believe it could be that much better in general than before.

John