Bit shocked

Sapphire

lisyloo wrote: »

Funny, but actually it's quite hard for a 50 year old investment banker to convince an interviewer that they want to work in a bar or cleaning job. Generally the assumption is that it's a stop gap and they'll get bored and leave, so it's very hard for over qualified people to get those kinds of jobs. Being over 50 in anything that involves physical effort (and bar work/waitressing is much harder than sitting in an office) is a disadvantage.

I think the term 'bar steward' had a double meaning when it was mentioned here by Clapton in reference to Generali (she says, stirring the pot further). :T

However, I agree with what you say here…

N1AK

lisyloo wrote: »

I do think people are allowed to complain about aspects of difficult choices for example the price of holidays in school holiday periods.

People are allowed to complain about anything they want to; what they aren't automatically entitled to is sympathy or even a kind reception to their complaints from others.

Parents complaining about the cost of holidays and expecting the government to do something about it is a great example. They want to foist yet another cost of the consequences of their decision onto others; good luck getting my sympathy with that

lisyloo

Agreed, but to claim that these jobs only exist in London goes very much against my own direct experience.

I have never said "these" jobs exist only in London (although prima ballerina of Sadler Wells, head of BBC, breakfast TV presenter probably do).

However we don't consider abandoning our dependents to be an option.
People with caring commitments, do not have the entire country available to them as an option.

gadgetmind

lisyloo wrote: »

head of BBC, breakfast TV presenter probably do).

Other ballet troups and TV studios are available.

lisyloo

People are allowed to complain about anything they want to; what they aren't automatically entitled to is sympathy or even a kind reception to their complaints from others.

Received loud and clear.

CLAPTON

N1AK wrote: »

People are allowed to complain about anything they want to; what they aren't automatically entitled to is sympathy or even a kind reception to their complaints from others.

Parents complaining about the cost of holidays and expecting the government to do something about it is a great example. They want to foist yet another cost of the consequences of their decision onto others; good luck getting my sympathy with that

a problem easily solved by allowing children to go on holiday during term time

parents know best for their children (on balance and excluding the usual straw men

so yes, I would expect this authoritarian government to do something about it.

setmefree2

chewmylegoff wrote: »

And it is still all a massive sh1thole, just with more rubbish beards.

It really isn't.

setmefree2

Pobby wrote: »

So taking on board that every part of London is pretty shabby why te great clamber to buy. Is it in hope of more rises to cash in on the equitie?

Because it is just the greatest place to live.

Back in the day, all graduates used to come to London when they graduated and then leave when they had kids because most of the housing is Victorian or Edwardian and therefore naturally 3 bedrooms. Then came along the loft conversion in the early 90s and the houses had a whole new floor - for extra bedrooms and bathrooms. Plus, single story extensions to get the big open kitchens that families want these days. Most recently basement extensions have been all the rage (less so in my patch Ealing). Suddenly, London's homes became great family homes and people wanted to stay.

But then there was the problem of the state schools which in the 80s and early 90s were the worst in the country - but Londoners needed to use state schools because our mortgages were big and we couldn't afford fees. So all the graduates who had decided to stay in London flooded the PTAs and became governors and improved Londons schools beyond recognition (they are now considered to be among the best in the country - because everyone in London uses the state system).

Oh and there was the IRA bombs too. They put people off living in London - right up to 2001.

So now there are great family homes & great schools in a fantastic city with plenty of work and no IRA bombs.

What's not to like?

setmefree2

Pobby wrote: »

Given that many graduates are loath to leave the coast and nearby countryside, it has a pool of well educated people.

Not true.

Seaside towns have lacked the jobs that will attract and keep bright young graduates, so talented youngsters are less likely to remain.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-34647827

gadgetmind

setmefree2 wrote: »

What's not to like?

Everything is expensive, traffic is terrible, lots of traffic fumes, very crowded, lack of space generally, and overall best avoided. Of course, some people like all of the things that I regard as negatives, which is why we have different flavours of ice cream.