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Refused a loan - why?

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  • WellKnownSid
    WellKnownSid Posts: 1,932 Forumite
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    AndyT678 wrote: »
    Ah, the familiar lament of the self-employed tax dodger. No that's not my REAL salary that's just what I tell the tax man!

    Ah, the familiar lament of the employee who gets paid to go on holiday, paid to be sick, paid to go on training courses, given a free pension, has their work done for them whilst they are on holiday / sick, etc, etc... ;)
  • AndyT678
    AndyT678 Posts: 757 Forumite
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    Ah, the familiar lament of the employee who gets paid to go on holiday, paid to be sick, paid to go on training courses, given a free pension, has their work done for them whilst they are on holiday / sick, etc, etc... ;)

    No lamenting here; I'm perfectly happy with my salary and benefits. :D

    For what it's worth I also have a lot of respect for people who have the balls to start a business and work for themselves and I have no issue with using legal ways to minimise tax liability such as paying yourself a low salary and taking money out as dividends. But if you choose to do that it shouldn't come as a surprise that there can be consequences to having a low salary such as, for example, banks not lending money to you at favourable rates.
  • Nada666
    Nada666 Posts: 5,004 Forumite
    Your declared income before tax is less than what a single person on the dole gets (after tax). Why would anyone lend to you at a decent rate when you have such a lousy income?
  • Gaz83
    Gaz83 Posts: 4,047 Forumite
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    edited 17 August 2015 at 9:15PM
    Ryaen wrote: »
    My bank said they could not take into account dividends, so they had to assume my yearly income was £10,600 (income before tax) - DESPITE being MY OWN bank and clearly seeing that more than that amount had gone through the account in the last 3 months.. :mad: - needless to say it was rejected.
    How did I miss this gem the first time around?!

    Look, if you're going to try to avoid paying tax (without wanting to get into a debate about the legal v moral side of it) by taking most of your income as dividends, and only declaring an absolute pittance of a salary, you can hardly be surprised that a bank might not want to lend to you based on your 'low salary'.
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  • WellKnownSid
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    Gaz83 wrote: »
    Look, if you're going to try to avoid paying tax

    Dividends are only payable on profits, on which ACT is payable...
  • Gaz83
    Gaz83 Posts: 4,047 Forumite
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    Dividends are only payable on profits, on which ACT is payable...
    Do you mean Advance Corporation Tax? Binned during Tony Blair's first stint.
    "Facism arrives as your friend. It will restore your honour, make you feel proud, protect your house, give you a job, clean up the neighbourhood, remind you of how great you once were, clear out the venal and the corrupt, remove anything you feel is unlike you... [it] doesn't walk in saying, "our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."
  • Tixy
    Tixy Posts: 31,455 Forumite
    Nada666 wrote: »
    Your declared income before tax is less than what a single person on the dole gets (after tax). Why would anyone lend to you at a decent rate when you have such a lousy income?

    Dividends are declared income, it is just that they are not guaranteed. And lenders generally treat them an investment income not earned income.
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