What happens when all jobs are automated?

mustang121

Well if history can teach us anything it's that there will be rioting if suddenly an industry just released new technology to replace humans.

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getmore4less wrote: »

One issue you have to cover with this sort of change is capturing all aspect of the process when it was manual.

Some are non obvious and to still do them can make the tedious job shorter but more prone to error(often different ones).

rearranging data has an automatic built in checking done by the person doing it as they do it.

Picking up a automated corrected version of the sheet to check it is often not so easy to spot errors, and a complacency sets in to the checking process if it gets it right most of the time.

The trick is to have an automated set of tests to run through everytime you need to update the algorythm because you spotted a case that did not work.

It's a good job we're a consultancy, so one of the things we know how to do is evaluate and document process

It's normally all done by hand, and checked by hand - i'm sure it will still be checked by humans for a while still. The documents are produced in order to hand over to developers; who then write code based on them. My next plan is to make the documents partially create the code, and have humans finish it off.

The things I'll do so I can get rid of some of my more useless colleagues!

getmore4less

ringo_24601 wrote: »

The documents are produced in order to hand over to developers; who then write code based on them. My next plan is to make the documents partially create the code, and have humans finish it off.

Look at compilers for ideas, might even be worth developing a high level language and a set of libraries to assist.

Ultimately thats all coding is.

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getmore4less wrote: »

Look at compilers for ideas, might even be worth developing a high level language and a set of libraries to assist.

Ultimately thats all coding is.

Thankfully, I just need to create XML - there is a compiler that turns that in to code (MUMPS). I might get it to produce JavaScript/ECMAScript also .. this is actually for use in healthcare message integration which tends to use a lot of proprietary languages. It will only make frameworks of code, with a human needing to finish it.

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When automation improves productivity you have two choices, one is to produce more with the same amount of labour, the other is produce the same amount with less labour (or a mix of both, of course).

In the past we have done the former, but this patently isn't sustainable when we're already consuming more than the environment can support, so the only alternative is to work less and have more leisure time. Unemployment is only inequitable if it isn't shared out evenly, reducing the working week to four days is preferable to having 20% of the workforce unemployed.

getmore4less

jack_pott wrote: »

When automation improves productivity you have two choices, one is to produce more with the same amount of labour, the other is produce the same amount with less labour (or a mix of both, of course).

There is a third option make things of a better quality.

In some sectors this is done but others automation/cheap labour is used to make things cheap and then you have the uneconomical to repair where the repair labour is not cheap.

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getmore4less wrote: »

There is a third option make things of a better quality.

In some sectors this is done but others automation/cheap labour is used to make things cheap and then you have the uneconomical to repair where the repair labour is not cheap.

There's no market for products that last in a society that throws things away because they're out of fashion, rather than because they're worn out. If technology changes faster than things wear out you have to devise a way of inducing people to throw away serviceable goods in order to sell the new stuff. The reason today's cars don't rust is because the gadgets do the job of making them obsolete instead of rust holes. A manufacturer who wants to sell a new self-parking car has to persuade people that their existing car is pass! if it only has satnav and cruise control, and that they need to change it if they want to keep up with the Jones's.

akaTheMonocle

Surely when all jobs are automated, on the face of it to make the employers more profitable, there will be no one who can afford to buy the goods/services and therefore the employers will go out of business e.g. driverless taxis with no one to pick up! Simples!!