School wages advice.

specialboy

Daughter started works in a school via agency in Nov '14, moves to permanent contract in Feb '15 and is leaving next week when term ends to start a new job. My question is, will she be due any pay for any part of the summer holidays? Staff at the school have told her that if she put off leaving until term started again in September she would be paid for the full 6/7 weeks but since she is leaving sooner she won't get anything, surely that can't be correct or is it?

mandragora_2

What date did she give as her resignation date, or what was the agreed end date of her contract, if it was only a temp one? Was her contract with a school, or with an agency? If she had a choice, and gave the 31st Aug as her final date, that'd be fairly standard for a teaching job. If she chose otherwise, or if she accepted a contract which gave, say, the end of June as her final date, that'd be the date she got paid up to. She needs to be 'on the books' until the end of August to be paid until the end of August. Her union will have good clear advice on their web site. All the best for her with her new job, anyway!

specialboy

She works direct for the school on a full year contract but has found a better job in her preferred field and her start date is 21st July, 3 days after breaking up from school.

getmore4less

read the contract,

Contracts for term time work paid over the full year should cover starting and the leaving cases part way through the pay year.

The issue is the work weeks and paid holiday weeks are often less than a full year so the prorata is not straight forward.

alibean121

She may well be starting the new job July 21st but there was nothing to stop her giving notice to end 31st August and getting the pay...

Pretty silly to give the notice with that end date...!!

pjread

Unless the contract precludes other similar employment... especially if both old and new posts are public sector schools, I'd be rather annoyed if they didn't

specialboy

alibean121 wrote: »

She may well be starting the new job July 21st but there was nothing to stop her giving notice to end 31st August and getting the pay...

Pretty silly to give the notice with that end date...!!

If she gave notice to end of August then surely she wouldn't have been allowed to take a second job. Her new job is in social care and the start date is set.
Looks like she will just have to see what occurs in her final wage and trust that the wage department have it correct.

sparkermarketing

Surely her new job will pay her from 21st July? Or are you expecting that she might be able to get paid twice?

specialboy

sparkermarketing wrote: »

Surely her new job will pay her from 21st July? Or are you expecting that she might be able to get paid twice?

Yes her new job will be paying her but I was wondering if she had 'built up' the pay for the summer holidays like dinner ladies do.

sparkermarketing

specialboy wrote: »

Yes her new job will be paying her but I was wondering if she had 'built up' the pay for the summer holidays like dinner ladies do.

In that situation, I would imagine that the dinner lady is still employed by the school.

I wish I could get my former employers to pay me when I don't want to work for them any more......!

duchy

specialboy wrote: »

If she gave notice to end of August then surely she wouldn't have been allowed to take a second job. Her new job is in social care and the start date is set.
Looks like she will just have to see what occurs in her final wage and trust that the wage department have it correct.

Of course she could - plenty of people start new jobs whilst using up holiday in the old job . The only issue might be if it was the same council when theoretically it might cause problems as it's the same payroll number.

Her mistake was not to check her contract -It isn't "unfair" it's that she didn't check before handing in her resignation.

I left a job in a school one July-I had no intention of returning in the September -which the school were fully aware of but I didn't give a leaving date before the contract ended at the end of August as I'd have lost pay.

It depends on how her contract is phrased but it seems she shot herself in the foot rather than the LEA were "unfair".