UK population up by 500,000

HarryDentJr

How many have funds to afford the overvalued property prices now?

the_flying_pig

It's just the modern way.

Immigration into the UK is fairly middling by European standards, e.g.:

Norway, Ireland, Italy, Sweden, Spain, Switzerland, and Portugal get more.

Netherlands, Greece, France, Belgium, Germany, Austria, and Denmark [+ a few others] get less.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_net_migration_rate

The easier and cheaper it gets to move between countries, the bigger the flows from (mostly) poorer countries to richer will be.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

That's very clearly what I didn't say.

The Italian, French, German and Spanish economies face various headwinds but it's quite a leap from that to saying that a group of economies which form the single biggest market in the world which creates a good standard of living for hundreds of millions is a failing organisation.

In my view, taking everything into account, on balance, the EU has managed the financial crisis very badly.
One should distinguish between a failing organisation and individual success stories.
Being the 'biggest', isn't of itself, a criteria of excellence.

There is no reason to assume that the European countries, wouldn't have been more successful if they had simply entered a free trade arrangement both between themselves and the rest of the world.

On balance further integration is unwelcome and we would benefit more from the continuation of tariff free trade but without the bureaucratic regulation.

CLAPTON

HarryDentJr wrote: »

How many have funds to afford the overvalued property prices now?

they don't need to

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/25/overcrowding-housing-raid-26-living-three-bedroom-east-london

C_Mababejive

HarryDentJr wrote: »

How many have funds to afford the overvalued property prices now?

They wont need them. Housing associations and social housing landlords will express migrants right to the front of the queue on grounds of need and to fulfil diversity quotas .

Its already happening.

It is the less well off indigenous population who will suffer more homelessness because of migrant. Not the migrants.

C_Mababejive

wotsthat wrote: »

Haven't they heard about the high rents?

The USA is the answer.

USA pop density per sq Km =around 35 and rising
UK pop density per sq km =265 and rising
Ukraine 79 and falling
Spain 93 and falling
Suriname 3
Somalia 17
Australia 3
Mauritania 4
Canada 4

This illustrates the big problem the UK has and its getting worse.


http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.POP.DNST?order=wbapi_data_value_2013+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=asc

Generali

I'm not sure why Australia and the UK keep getting compared with each other being utterly different countries.

The vast majority of Australia looks like this:



only without the train.

There is nothing. No water, no soil, no people, few plants, fewer animals. No realistic way to start a community of any size or to earn a living.

People basically live in 4 cities: Sydney, Melbourne, Newcastle and Brisbane. The density of population of Australia is a stupid metric to use to compare against any place other than perhaps the Sahara.

The-Joker

C_Mababejive wrote: »

They wont need them. Housing associations and social housing landlords will express migrants right to the front of the queue on grounds of need and to fulfil diversity quotas .

Its already happening.

It is the less well off indigenous population who will suffer more homelessness because of migrant. Not the migrants.

Thats one way to try to keep property propped up a little longer....

Conrad

The tax pot will rise as a function of national GDP rising, but on other measures mass immigration is detrimental. For example no meaningful increase in GDP per head, productivity falls, more congestion, more noise and fumes, more wildlife destruction / road kill / green space obliterated, more competition for resources, more intensive agriculture, just an all round more miserable Human hubbub and the loss of magical England.


Money is not all that matters.

caronoel

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Commentators are currently questioning how this is sustainable in regards of our transport system, housing, healthcare, schools etc.

The main driver was net migration, adding 260,000 to the population last year. Natural growth added 226,000.

Last year we were told that migration was not the key driver in the growth of the population, whereas it clearly is. It's above the yearly average by some margin.

Meanwhile, lorry drivers in Calais are being threatened with knives. One lorry driver on the news this morning said he's had migrants standing in front of his lorry wielding a knife while running his finger along his throat - basically threatening the lorry driver to let them on board.

If anything, the intensity is increasing, not decreasing.

Growing population and growing economy while interest rates are flat.

Wonder what this will mean for house prices?

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