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IHT question

L.F
L.F Posts: 16 Forumite
I would like to know the IHT position regarding my mother. She and my father owned their house jointly. He died 30 years ago and left his half to my mother. She remarried 18 months later but retained the ownership of the house solely in her name. On her death would she be entitled to the double IHT allowance?

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  • SeniorSam
    SeniorSam Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    Owning a house jointly means that when one dies, the other is automatically the owner of the whole, so your father did not actually gift his half.

    At present the nil rate band allowance of each person is £325,000 and if your father left all of his other assets to your mother and did not make any gifts on his death or within 7 years of his death that were above the gifting allowances, then your mother will have her nil rate band allowance and your fathers allowance when she dies.

    It is important to retain the Probate documents recording the value of your father's estate, as these will be needed to support any claim

    Sam
    I'm a retired IFA who specialised for many years in Inheritance Tax, Wills and Trusts. I cannot offer advice now, but my comments here and on Legal Beagles as Sam101 are just meant to be helpful. Do ask questions from the Members who are here to help.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    SeniorSam wrote: »
    Owning a house jointly means that when one dies, the other is automatically the owner of the whole, so your father did not actually gift his half.

    At present the nil rate band allowance of each person is £325,000 and if your father left all of his other assets to your mother and did not make any gifts on his death or within 7 years of his death that were above the gifting allowances, then your mother will have her nil rate band allowance and your fathers allowance when she dies.

    It is important to retain the Probate documents recording the value of your father's estate, as these will be needed to support any claim

    Sam

    THats not how it works, you posted on this only yesterday after your talk with HMRC.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    Read IHT402 and fill it in as that will tell you what she will get from first husband.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/373532/IHT402.pdf

    30 years is around 1985 so after(1974) the unlimited spouse exemption came in.

    if the current one dies first she can claim his as well

    the % from both can't exceed 100%
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,435 Forumite
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    Has she outlived both husbands or just the one?
    Signature removed for peace of mind
  • SeniorSam
    SeniorSam Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    edited 20 June 2015 at 2:15PM
    THis may help http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-2728896/Can-Grandmother-use-nil-rate-bands-late-husbands.html

    Both nil rate band allowances are available up to the maximum of two persons .................. £325,000 x 2 in this case.

    This is not the same as the case discussed yesterday as the first death in this case has a full allowance to pass on.

    Sam
    I'm a retired IFA who specialised for many years in Inheritance Tax, Wills and Trusts. I cannot offer advice now, but my comments here and on Legal Beagles as Sam101 are just meant to be helpful. Do ask questions from the Members who are here to help.
  • L.F
    L.F Posts: 16 Forumite
    Thank you all for your advice. Both my mother and her second husband are still alive although he has no call on the house as it's solely in her name. It looks as though she will get the £650,000. I will try to obtain the probate documents for my father, who died in 1985.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    L.F wrote: »
    Thank you all for your advice. Both my mother and her second husband are still alive although he has no call on the house as it's solely in her name. It looks as though she will get the £650,000. I will try to obtain the probate documents for my father, who died in 1985.

    He could challenge a will that would leave him homeless unless some other financial consideration was made in lieu of the property.
  • L.F
    L.F Posts: 16 Forumite
    edited 23 June 2015 at 4:59PM
    Yes, she is leaving him some money. They are both in care homes so he wouldn't be left homeless.
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